What gun goes with this Russian 76.2 mm case?

[Hoeksel]

I recently acquired some new shell cases including a small model 76.2 mm Russian case. I have seen this case many times before, so I know it is not that rare, but still I have no positive ID from my references. The case measures 76.2x166R87.

In a Russian written artillery ammunition manual I have found several examples of cases that seem to be the same (no dimensions mentioned), being:

- 75 mm M1909
- 75 mm M1943

Based on the date on my case (1939) it could be the 75 mm M1909.

In "Big Bore Ammunition" I find a 3inch mountain howitzer, 12 pounder Hotchkiss for this shell case.

Can anybody verify?

 

[SG500]

Hi, is it like the 4th case from the left in the following link?
http://www.bocn.co.uk/vbforum/russian-arrowhead-rounds-t76602.html?t=76602&highlight=arrowhead
If so its probably for the Soviet T34 tank.
I don't have the round to hand to measure the case.

If it is that one it is worth noting that the guns fitted to the T34 tanks used the same shell cases as fired in the old pre WW1 Tsarist 3 inch field guns.

Dave.

 

[Hoeksel]

Hi Dave,

No, that is clearly a 385 mm case while mine is shorter.

Kornel

 

[SG500]

Hi Dave,

No, that is clearly a 385 mm case while mine is shorter.

Kornel

OK yes I've just re read your original post, 166mm is very short! Sorry I can't help with that.
Dave.

 

[Tmine35]

According to Finnish WW2 dated ordnance manual case length for Russian 76,2mm mountain guns M/04 and M/09 and shortened cannon M/13 is 191,6mm, base diameter 87,1 mm.

Any case shorter than this does not exist in this catalogue. Can you see if it has been shortened? Sometimes cases for separate loading have been shortened to repair a mouth crack.

 

[blackwatch]

The only thing, i have found.

 

[Hoeksel]

I am positive it is not shortened. In addition, I have seen several other examples of the same length.

 

[Hoeksel]

The only thing, i have found.

This is also what I found; the case on the right matches mine. I found two models, model 1943 and model 1909. Case seems to be the same (based on pictures).