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DEADLINE222

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I found this in an antique mall today in central Ohio, USA.

I have looked at hundreds of grenades since I walked in the door, and the closest resemblance I can find would be the Shinkle grenade, but there are many differences.

I paid just over an hour's pay for it, so if it turns out to be a part off of a 1922 Ford, my heart will not be broken.

It is around 70mm wide/tall, and weighs around 2 pounds. No markings nor threading anywhere.

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No idea yet but I'll give you 2 hrs pay for it and you can double your money instantly :)
 
I think I will hold out for more information.

But then again; you wouldn't have the hourly rate of a brain surgeon or a movie star, would you?
 
Well I was a child actor and I've been told that doing the work I do is kind of like brain surgery.

What are the dimensions of the item.
 
It would not suprise me.

I am no antique blunt weapons expert, nor a grenade expert, but I want to believe it is some type of grenade.

The piece is not bi symmetrical, and I would assume the protrusions on the body were ment to accomodate a spoon, fuze or whatever.

If I were to bet, I would place my money on it being something unfinished.
 
Looks like a Shinkle that was pulled off the line prior to finishing cuts and boring. A "lunch box" item.
 
http://www.paul-spence1964.com/Shinklegrenade3.html

In any state of manufacture, this thing being a Shinkle would make my day, as I understand from limmited research that the production number of the Shinkle was very low.

The shinkle is more oval shape, where my item is circular; almost a perfect circle, with the exception of the protruding areas.

I assume you would refer to the parts made to grip as in the MK II fragmentaion grenade, as the "sides". The Shinkle has four rows of portrusions on the sides, where my piece has five rows.

I will take a picture to compare the two in a bit.
 
I would lean toward maybe an early shinkle prototype of some sort. In other words I have no idea, which makes complete sense if you don't think about it!!! Dano
 
Here are some better pictures. I would place the piece beside a picture of a Shinkle, but I am not yet familiar with the photo editing features on Windows 7. I am a simple, Windows Paint kinda guy.

Item placed beside a MK1a1 for idea of size.

Also, the item has a hole on what I assume to be both the top and bottom of the piece. In addition to that, (camparing the first and last image) notice that one end with the hole is a dome like shape, where the opposite end is a dome with a square shape on top and/or bottom.

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Hi,
Much closer in form to this unusual Kugel, than Shinkle.
 

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Hi,
I'm not completely sure it's Russian, that's why I wrote "Kugel". If somebody has one with Cyrillic markings, the question will be solved. As far as I know, such "Kugels" are found in the former Austro-Hungarian territories.
 
I'd be happy to have a reference, regardless of who made it.
 
Just a thought about this gren body. Could it be an unfinished Roland grenade. They were of a round, ball shape and used the 2 raised lugs to hold a pin. Look something like one i have a picture of. Cant post it until ive asked permission off the guy who sent it to me.

Andy
 
Any help? There were other body designs for the 'Roland'


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US Patent 1126871 refers
 
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