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what is this 247 fuze from, a 79 grenade?

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Rrickoshae

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hi, I wonder if any of you grenade experts can identify the type of grenade this 247 fuze came from by the grenade top that it is attached to. The top was originally tinned but that is mainly gone now. This top appears to have been a push fit possibly with tape to hold it to the rest of the body.

Any thoughts?

Many thanks, Dave
 

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I think its the wrong shape top for a Gammon and yes, its would appear to be from a 79 but having never owned one I'm not certain.

thanks, dave
 
I spotted this one too and thought it was off a no 73 grenade. But it doesnt appear to conform to the standard profile of either the 73, 79 or the 82 gammon. What is the diameter of the tin Dave?

regards Kev
 
butterfly said:
I spotted this one too and thought it was off a no 73 grenade. But it doesnt appear to conform to the standard profile of either the 73, 79 or the 82 gammon. What is the diameter of the tin Dave?

regards Kev
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its 2.75 inches Kev. The cap is marked '7-1H' Dave
 
Wrong size for a Smith gun round . They were slightly over 3" . It's definitely not from a grenade in the numbered series & my guess would be some sort of flare or smoke pot .
 
hi Mike, OK I bow to your vast experience in these matters - experience is one of the few advantages of old age!! Dave
 
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Dave . The state I've been in lately , that's the ONLY advantage of old age !
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Is it definitely a No. 247 fuze and not a No. 859 fuze? - how long is the tape? I'm thinking "Bomb, smoke, Aircraft, 4lb"

TimG
 
How about the grenade that was used by SOE agents to assanate that SS officer, think it was a cut down No73 there is a picture some where on the net of a captured one. Do you have the tape length and what the striker point is single point or sheered and what the primer pellet is made of ..... Dave
 
TimG said:
Is it definitely a No. 247 fuze and not a No. 859 fuze? - how long is the tape? I'm thinking "Bomb, smoke, Aircraft, 4lb"

TimG
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I think the cap has a thread in it Tim which the bombs did not have threaded caps.... Dave
 
Dave,

I should have looked closer. Also, I now see it was 3 1/2" in diameter.

TimG
 
millsbomber said:
How about the grenade that was used by SOE agents to assanate that SS officer, think it was a cut down No73 there is a picture some where on the net of a captured one. Do you have the tape length and what the striker point is single point or sheered and what the primer pellet is made of ..... Dave
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Dave, Nice idea but the Type 6 cut down No 73 was substantially the top end of grenade whereas the tin work attached to this fuze is not from the 73.

Gammon was attached to Station XII (ES6) to develop his ideas for what became the No 82; however he was not permitted to know about the Type 6 No 73 developed by Wood at Aston House and used by the Czech team that assassinated Heydrich. Wood claims to have steered Gammon towards the version that became the Gammon bomb and the similarities of the No 82 with the ES6 No 73 are rather obvious. So what? Well the early production of the ES6 Type Gammon Bomb used a short cylindrical 'tray' rather than the conical 'baking tray' design familiar on the regular No 82. Sadly the example shown in this thread is not of the right dimensions or configuration to be an SOE/ISRB Type 6 No 82 Grenade.


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