Czech/German VZ 34 rounds.

[Quatermass]

Czech VZ 34 / German M 34 Tank gun rounds. (37x268R)

Close up of the projectiles.

 

[Quatermass]

Complete rounds.

 

[Quatermass]

Case head stamps.

 

[waffenamt]

Hi Q,

what lovely examples they are matey!B)

thanks for showing them.

best

waff

 

[Quatermass]

Just for you Waff!

 

[DAZ REICH]

Great rounds quater but they would look nicer in my collection.
Do you want to sell one.
DAZ

 

[waffenamt]

Quatermass wrote:

Just for you Waff!

Cheers Q,
i do like those `little eagles`B)

best

waff

 

[Weasel]

Very nice rounds...

Weasel.

 

[RichardB]

Hi Q,
Have you seen an HE version of these rounds, (or if anyone else does) In particular, I am interested in the type of fuze used.

Also, on the base of the case, I assume VZ.34 relates to koda vz 34 gun (per wiki ) does the M of M34 simply mean M=Model 1934 gun?

Rich

 

[Quatermass]

VZ (vzor) is Czech for model.

I think the HE shell used a A.Z. N34(t) fuse.

Quatermass

 

[pzgr40]

As if they left the factory yesterday. Very nice.
Thanks for posting,
regards, DJH

 

[Grenademan2005]

Mine is 42.26 3.40. And the primer is original Czech with a Waffenamt marked on. These rounds are very rare and very nice. Im waiting for receive the HE version. When I receive it I will post pics of him for all of you. Quatermass your two rounds are excellent, congrats. :top:

 

[StielGr]

The 3.7cm pzgr 37 (t) is one of my favorite shells.
The reason is the amount of engineering design that was used to produce such a small projectile. The fuse and primer are fascinating in the number of small parts that can all be screwed apart and it is made with such precision.

You can see the base fuse and the primer pictures below.

 

[Grenademan2005]

Another fantastic piece. :dancing2:

 

[Mariusz Loslau]

Hi,

Hi Q,
Have you seen an HE version of these rounds, (or if anyone else does) In particular, I am interested in the type of fuze used.

Real name of this fuze is HO.
German nomenclature - A.Z 34(t)

And here my 3,7cm Sprgr Patr.34(t), with german WaA stamp's on projectile and fuze.
Not so nice like yours, but it was find underground, on battlefield from 1944r.

Best Regards.

 

[Mariusz Loslau]

...and here;
Some fuze parts, and stamp.

Regards.

 

[greif]

There is also another AP shell for this gun. That is the standard German 3,7 cm Pzgr with additional cap. It is called 3,7 cm Pzgr (t) umg. (as shown on the picture at the right)

 

[Grenademan2005]

Meganice! :dancing:Grief seems that you have a great collection, please tell us your history on collecting.

 

[StielGr]

There is also another AP shell for this gun. That is the standard German 3,7 cm Pzgr with additional cap. It is called 3,7 cm Pzgr (t) umg.

That is 2 very nice looking examples of the 3.7cm projectiles. There was also a Pzgr. 37 (t) L'spur projectile that had a base fuse with tracer. The fuse was called a Bd. Z. P.K.Z. 25(t).
Has anyone got an example in their collection?

The 3.7cm pzgr(t) umg just has the normal Bd. Z. 5103 base fuse and the case also had a different headstamp with a white stripe.

 

[Mariusz Loslau]

Hi,

There was also a Pzgr. 37 (t) L'spur projectile that had a base fuse with tracer. The fuse was called a Bd. Z. P.K.Z. 25(t).
(..)
The 3.7cm pzgr(t) umg just has the normal Bd. Z. 5103 base fuse.

Maybe I'm wrong, but Bd. Z. 5103 it's not a base fuze with tracer?
So what for used another type fuze for L'spur cartridge?
Or you write abaut base fuze (L'spur) czech orgin, in German nomenclature Bd. Z. P.K.Z. 25(t)?
I never hear before about this fuze. Does anybody have some information about this? Maybe from czech or german manual for this gun?

And another question; Who knows a real Czech name (no german nomenclature) for base fuze used in 3.7cm Pzgr.37 (t)?
For example - real (Czech) name for A.Z 34(t) fuze is HO.
Real name for completely Czech cartridge and projectile it's also very interesting. Anybody know something about this?
German nomenclature it's more popular, but don't forget- this is original Czech design, and good to know a real nomenclature.

And some pics;
First on left are interesting; different driving band ( projectile was fired, but anyway driving band are different ).
All was find on ww2 Battlefields, thats why contition it's... low.
And some Czech base fuze detail.

Best regards, and sorry for my bad English.