Tmine35 said:
Richard Rinker had tens of production plants or subsuppliers manufacturing in Rinker's name. The number after RR indicates the plant. I had once an opporturnity to investigate a few hundred fuze package labels marked with RR and number. Interesting feature was that all labels have written also the city where the plant was located and then I learned they were in so many places. Also RR was sometimes written like this and sometimes the first R was reversed. Unfortunately I made no study to see if either version was bound to certain numbers or was it changing during years.
Sudelmuk has studied manufacturers widely but I'm not sure if he has found a rule when the first R is reversed and when not.
Yes Reino it's very interesting and amazing that Rinker had so many production plants and sub-suppliers in so many cities manufacturing in their name. That's really nice that you live in Finland where you have been able to examine in person & in-hand with your own eyes, a large amount of war materials that were acquired by Finland or left behind in your country & surrounding areas after the war, and that have survived all this time.
I have seen Sudelmuk's excellent, and very interesting & informative list, the Rinker info from it is shown below (Vielen Danke meine freund, I hope you do not mind sharing this info)... if I have counted correct, there are about 40 different markings to be found on Rinker made or sub-contracted items...Rinker was truly a huge contractor and I think also the oldest....I'm also not sure if Peter knows the exact "rule" of the time-date era of first reversed R or why the reversal of R was even done (maybe he has found out recently and will let us know) ....But at this time I can say with almost 100% certainty that the R logo reversal was sometime between 1935 and 1941-42 :laugh: when the 3 letter Rinker codes started to be used....
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22A 1940 Normen-Lager-Gesellschaft Trinks Cie. Schraubenfabrik, Berlin ZZ 35
90 Bergmann Elektrizittswerke AG, Berlin-Wilhelmsruh ZZ 35, T.Mi.Z.35
M 113 36 "Hagenuk" Hanseatische Apparatebaugesellschaft Neufeldt Kuhnke, ZZ 35, DZ 35 B
37 Werk Kiel
217 1938 ??? Immelborn DZ 35
227-40 "Nhmatag" Nhmaschinenteile-AG, Radebeul ZZ 35
336 Richard Rinker GmbH, Menden/Iserlohn Ei-Handgranate 39
M 343-40 Nrnberger Schraubenfabrik GmbH, Nrnberg DZ 35
344-37, 39 "Hagenuk" Hanseatische Apparatebaugesellschaft Neufeldt & Kuhnke S.Mi.Z.35, ZZ 35, T.Mi.Z.35
GmbH, Berlin-Tempelhof DZ 35
351-38 Widerstand GmbH, Hannover-Brink T.Mi.Z.35
384-38 L.O.Dietrich "Vesta"-Nhmaschinenteile, Altenburg ZZ 35, Kippznder 43 (frh), T.Mi.Z.35
M 401-36 Hermann Khler AG, Nhmaschinenfabrik, Altenburg DZ 35 B, T.Mi.Z.35, ZDSCHNANZ 29
469 1939 Schenk & Krschner Metallwarenfabrik, Thal/bei Ruhla ZDSCHNANZ 29
470 1940 Elektrotechnische Metallwarenfabrik Storch Stehmann GmbH, Ruhla ZZ 35, ZDSCHNANZ 29
485 1935 Maschinenwerke zu Frankfurt/Main, ebendort Brennznder 24
492-39 S.Elster Gasmesser- und Gasapparatefabrik, Berlin DZ 35
493 1938 ?? Karlsruhe-Durlach T.Mi.Z.35, SMiZ.35
495 1940 Metallverarbeitung Schneweide, Herbert Greinert, Berlin S.Mi.Z.35
504 Lignose Sprengstoff-Werke GmbH, Werk Lechfeld/Augsburg Glhznder 28 & 28 b
507 ??? ZZ 35, ZuZ 35
508 1939 Georg Beibarth Metallwarenfabrik, Nrnberg ZZ 35
509-40 "Mesco" Metallwarenfabrik, Lambertz & Schreiber Nachfahren, Meiez ZZ 35
510 Galler, Hamburg-Altona
548-1940 Willhem Richter, Hannover S.Mi.Z.35
551 1939 Vollmann & Schmelzer Metallwarenfabrik, Iserlohn S.Mi.Z.35
552 Paul Liebner Schraubenfabrik, Luckenwalde
561 1939 Jung & Dittmar AG Metallwarenfabrik, Bad Salzungen S.Mi.Z.35
563 40 F.Snnecken, Bonn-Poppelsdorf ZZ 35, ZDSCHNANZ 29
564 1939 Wilhelm von Hagen Wwe. Metallwarenfabrik, Iserlohn Stielhandgranate 24
606 Alfred Gauthier GmbH Feinmechanik & Maschinenbau, Oberreichenbach S.Mi.Z.35
801 1940 "Nirona"-Werke Nier & Ehmer, Auto- und Fahrrad-Zubehr, Beierfeld bei Schwarzenberg Stielhandgranate 24
933-40 Rachmann Metallwerke, Haida/Sudetenland ZZ 35
985-40 Josef Mellert Fabrik fr Feinmechanik, Bretten ZZ 35
RR 1938 Richard Rinker GmbH, Menden/Iserlohn S.Mi.35, ZuZ 35, Glhznder 28 b, Nebel-Brennznder 38
Brennznder 24, T.Mi.35 & b
RR 1939 Richard Rinker GmbH, Neubrandenburg ZZ 35
RRE, RRK, RRO Richard Rinker GmbH, Menden/Iserlohn ZuDZ 29, ZDSCHNANZ 29
RRM 1936 Richard Rinker GmbH, Menden/Iserlohn ZZ 35 & Blech-Schachtel
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lwv Richard Rinker GmbH, Niedersfeld/bei Winterberg Handgranaten und Znder
brb 42, 43 Richard Rinker GmbH, Menden/Iserlohn S.Mi.35 & b, Y-Verteiler, ZDSCHNANZ 29, Nebelhandgranate (Ei)
dbk 42 Richard Rinker GmbH, Werk Neubrandenburg ZZ 35, T.Mi.Z. 35, 42 & 43, BZE39, ZDSCHNANZ 39, Stielhandgranate 24