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15 pdr HE projectile
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I might have found an answer to the Camel stamp,,many of the UK members will be aware of Cammel Laird & Co ship builders,,Originaly Cammel was Johnson Cammel &Co,around 1856 it was known as Charles Cammel and Co until 1903 when they took over the Birkenhead ship builders Laird brothers and then became Cammel Laird. I have attached two advertising posters from 1891 and 1894 of Charles Cammel who amongst other things produced ordnance forgings,the posters show the company trade marks, so could this or the later Cammel Laird be the company who produced the castings for the afore mentioned projectiles ??
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Interesting info, would it matter for trademark breach if the camel was pointing the other way compared to the advert pics?
Usually trade marks are reproduced exactly, unless they re-applied for trade mark registration at another time?
It is a good match though.
Regards Ozzi.
Usually trade marks are reproduced exactly, unless they re-applied for trade mark registration at another time?
It is a good match though.
Regards Ozzi.
A little further googling shows that they changed the logo in 1902 (reverse direction) - the ones Spotter posted are earlier ->1891 & 1894.
http://www.gracesguide.co.uk/Charles_Cammell_and_Co
1902.
A review of the URL highlights that the company had the "Ordinance Steel Works" in 1901.
But the Camel in the triangle variation doesn't quite match from the decorated rectangle one shown - unless this may have been specifically used by the Ordinance works????
Cheers
Drew
BTW - Seems Charles Cammell was also involved with C.O.W:
Coventry Ordnance Works
http://www.gracesguide.co.uk/Charles_Cammell_and_Co
1902.
A review of the URL highlights that the company had the "Ordinance Steel Works" in 1901.
But the Camel in the triangle variation doesn't quite match from the decorated rectangle one shown - unless this may have been specifically used by the Ordinance works????
Cheers
Drew
BTW - Seems Charles Cammell was also involved with C.O.W:
Coventry Ordnance Works
Coventry Ordnance Works (C.O.W.) was a British manufacturer of heavy guns, particularly naval artillery in Coventry1905 The company was set up by a consortium of British shipbuilding firms John Brown, Cammell, Laird and Co and Fairfield in order to compete with the duopoly of Vickers and Armstrong Whitworth. Initially the plant was managed by Retired Admiral Sir Reginald Bacon. The company also had a factory in Scotstoun, Glasgow which made heavy gun mountings, and at Cliffe for cordite and magazines.
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Yes that is the correct way to spell "ordnance" but I wasn't sure if the "Ordiance Steel Works" was a mis-spelling by the writer (Grace) or if that's was the official company name spelling???.......most likely a mis-spelling
1901 Of Cyclops Works, Saville Street, Saville Street East and Carlisle Street East and Ordinance Steel Works, Grimesthorpe; and Yorkshire Iron and Steel works, Penistone and Derwent blast furnaces, iron and steel works, Workington; Solway Iron Works, Maryport and Old and New Oaks collieries, Barnsley were boiler and ship plate manufacturers
1901 Of Cyclops Works, Saville Street, Saville Street East and Carlisle Street East and Ordinance Steel Works, Grimesthorpe; and Yorkshire Iron and Steel works, Penistone and Derwent blast furnaces, iron and steel works, Workington; Solway Iron Works, Maryport and Old and New Oaks collieries, Barnsley were boiler and ship plate manufacturers