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6.5mm & 7.9mm queries
- Thread starter Rrickoshae
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Hi, perhaps is the 6,5mm. a Dutch blank cartridge. The exact length of a Dutch cartridge is 6,5x53,5R so it is possible. If it is Dutch, then 99 is the year of manifacture of the case and E is the code of the brass lot.
The color of the wooden point indicates for which weapon this blank is used.
If it is red, it is used for the Rifle M95, and the military name is “losse patroon No2”. Other possible numbers are “losse patroon 8, 10 of 12” with different colored wooden bullets.
Yes that would make sense Oldman56, I seem to recall that some Greek rounds had an E and were Dutch manufacture for the Greeks. And thank you for the info on bullet colours too. Best regards, Dave
Hi Rrickoshae,
I made two pictures from a Dutch 6,5x53,5R blank with an uncoloured hollow wooden bullet (the blank cartridge no.8 or in Dutch: "losse patroon no.8") used in the M08 machine gun. It's a cartridge made by the "Hembrug", the Dutch state arsenal, and the headstamp tells us at 12 o'clock "05": year of production of the case and at 6 o'clock "P": code letter for the brass lot. The case is used more than one time; a "circle" indicated re-use as a ball round and a "point" indicated re-use as a blank round.
The third picture is a headstamp of a ball-cartridge case "16" case produced in 1916, brass lot "U".
From 1920 onward, this type of headstamp remained in use for the shooting stock. Cartridges that were to be stored got two additional markings. Also the bottom of the case was changed: from slightly rounded shape into a flat one.
I made two pictures from a Dutch 6,5x53,5R blank with an uncoloured hollow wooden bullet (the blank cartridge no.8 or in Dutch: "losse patroon no.8") used in the M08 machine gun. It's a cartridge made by the "Hembrug", the Dutch state arsenal, and the headstamp tells us at 12 o'clock "05": year of production of the case and at 6 o'clock "P": code letter for the brass lot. The case is used more than one time; a "circle" indicated re-use as a ball round and a "point" indicated re-use as a blank round.
The third picture is a headstamp of a ball-cartridge case "16" case produced in 1916, brass lot "U".
From 1920 onward, this type of headstamp remained in use for the shooting stock. Cartridges that were to be stored got two additional markings. Also the bottom of the case was changed: from slightly rounded shape into a flat one.
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That’s very interesting, I had never seen cartridges marked up as re-used for blank or for ball round - easy to miss that little dot. Thank you for your effort, every day is a school day no matter how old one is! Best wishes, Dave