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7.62x54R ShKAS
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smle2009
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Many thanks TonyE,
the refrence I have states that the II3(PZ) 3II(ZP) and the 3(Z) are just different designations for the same bullet(incendiary) but then goes on to list the explosive bullet as a PZ also!,all of which has a boat tail(ish) bullet,so at a loss to the 'non' boat tail bullet I have
Cheers
Tony
the refrence I have states that the II3(PZ) 3II(ZP) and the 3(Z) are just different designations for the same bullet(incendiary) but then goes on to list the explosive bullet as a PZ also!,all of which has a boat tail(ish) bullet,so at a loss to the 'non' boat tail bullet I have
Cheers
Tony
smle would you show us an image of that "non boat tailed" one. I am really curious now.
There were actually "P" (spotter) - white tip and "Z" (incendiary) - red tip in the beginning. Both were adopted in the early 1930's and were physically identical.
In 1935 when chemistry advanced both cartridges got unified to a single one but received two designations:
PZ: Air Force designation
ZP: Army designation
Both were physically identical to the "P" and "Z" and the PZ/ZP had a red tip now.
In 1941 the designation was unified to PZ (one would wonder why that did not happen in 1935 already)
For the "PZ" also the designation "MDZ-2" is mentioned but I was not able to verify it so far.
Also do "PZ" projectiles exist which have a RED boat tail also. So far nobody was able to explain that.
There were actually "P" (spotter) - white tip and "Z" (incendiary) - red tip in the beginning. Both were adopted in the early 1930's and were physically identical.
In 1935 when chemistry advanced both cartridges got unified to a single one but received two designations:
PZ: Air Force designation
ZP: Army designation
Both were physically identical to the "P" and "Z" and the PZ/ZP had a red tip now.
In 1941 the designation was unified to PZ (one would wonder why that did not happen in 1935 already)
For the "PZ" also the designation "MDZ-2" is mentioned but I was not able to verify it so far.
Also do "PZ" projectiles exist which have a RED boat tail also. So far nobody was able to explain that.
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bar5428
Guest
Photo BZT (ZB-46)
smle, Jesus! Your answer is almost 1 year old and only now as someone lese posted again I see it as a new entry. To the Admins: Can't this be fixed? I am missing a lot here since I never get to know there were ever new postings (and I noticed other people have the same problem).
As for your projectile: It looks much like a regular "L" (light ball) which got a red tip for what reason ever (self made, display dummy in a unit etc.). I also guess nobody would deactivate such a projectile if he loves his body parts.
smle2009
Well-Known Member
Not sure at all hence the reason for this post:tinysmile_fatgrin_t