75mm French / Turkish use projectile

[Burney Davis]

Can anyone provide information on this projectile?

It is 75mm diameter and 153mm tall to the bass of the fuze. Fuze is Turkish marked. I've never seen what appears to be (by the driving bands) a French projectile with a Turkish fuze. What gun and was it for and what case would it fit? TIA

 

[Dreamk]

The Ottomans bought before ww1 Schneider 75mm guns L16.7

Moreover, in 1912 the Ottoman army captured at Salonika Serbian Schneider 75mm M 1907 A guns (Schneider 75mm P.D. 6). They were assigned to the Chtaldzha Army and fired against the Bulgarian Army in 1913. At the outbreak of the WW1 it seems they were assigned to the II Turkish Army Corps. One of these guns was found in Baghdad in 2003

They also had 75mm Krupp mountain guns:

" In 1910 or so, Krupp sold two types of field guns that fired the 6.5 kilo 75mm shell used by the Ottoman Army - one that weighed 1071 kilos and one that weighed 995 kilos.
This difference in weights was in keeping with the German Army's philosophy of providing horse artillery units with a somewhat lighter field piece that fired the same ammunition as the field piece issued to field artillery units.
The 75mm Krupp mountain guns sold to the Ottoman Army used a shell that was much lighter (5 kilos or so) than that fired by the 75mm field gun. The velocity of this shell, moreover, was much less than that of a field gun shell."

see thread here: https://forum.axishistory.com/viewtopic.php?f=80&t=109530&start=15 you''ll find a lot of precise info on Ottoman artillery.
also here https://forum.axishistory.com/viewtopic.php?f=80&t=139398&p=1213599&hilit=75mm#p1213599 and here https://forum.axishistory.com/viewtopic.php?f=80&t=110105&hilit=Schneider

 

[Burney Davis]

The Ottomans bought before ww1 Schneider 75mm guns L16.7

Moreover, in 1912 the Ottoman army captured at Salonika Serbian Schneider 75mm M 1907 A guns (Schneider 75mm P.D. 6). They were assigned to the Chtaldzha Army and fired against the Bulgarian Army in 1913. At the outbreak of the WW1 it seems they were assigned to the II Turkish Army Corps. One of these guns was found in Baghdad in 2003

They also had 75mm Krupp mountain guns:

" In 1910 or so, Krupp sold two types of field guns that fired the 6.5 kilo 75mm shell used by the Ottoman Army - one that weighed 1071 kilos and one that weighed 995 kilos.
This difference in weights was in keeping with the German Army's philosophy of providing horse artillery units with a somewhat lighter field piece that fired the same ammunition as the field piece issued to field artillery units.
The 75mm Krupp mountain guns sold to the Ottoman Army used a shell that was much lighter (5 kilos or so) than that fired by the 75mm field gun. The velocity of this shell, moreover, was much less than that of a field gun shell."

see thread here: https://forum.axishistory.com/viewtopic.php?f=80&t=109530&start=15 you''ll find a lot of precise info on Ottoman artillery.
also here https://forum.axishistory.com/viewtopic.php?f=80&t=139398&p=1213599&hilit=75mm#p1213599 and here https://forum.axishistory.com/viewtopic.php?f=80&t=110105&hilit=Schneider

Many thanks for the information and links. There is a huge amount of information on that forum to assimilate. I have extracted one chart below which is quite succinct. Can you advise what the identification letters M D2 T represent. Presumably M is Montagne (mountain).

 

[Dreamk]

I need to check.
M is indeed for Montagne
The D may stand for the initial of Danglis (Artillery Major Panagiotis Danglis) the Greek inventor who developed this mountain gun and sold his patent to Schneider. The Schenider mountain guns were sometimes called "Schneider-Danglis"
T may be the initial for "tracte" (drawn) as opposed to D "demontable" (can be broken into pieces for mule transportation)
In the meantime this can be useful:
Schneider-Canet Mle 1911 Matériel de montagne tir rapide, de 75mm, type MD2 T
https://www.armedconflicts.com/Materiel-de-montagne-tir-rapide-de-75mm-type-MD-178-T-t110385
and https://www.bulgarianartillery.it/Bulgarian Artillery 1/Schneider-Canet 75mm 1911_Gb_Turkish.htm