75mm Training Shell & Fuze

[MikeS0000]

Hi Folks -

Haven't been actively collecting (anything) for quite a while. Doesn't stop one from looking though!

I've had this cutaway shell for a long time, but couldn't find the correct fuze for it. Then voila, over on Gunbroker it popped up! Not one of the recent cutaway fuzes, but an actual training fuze from the Great War period IMHO. Nicely aged to match the shell.

Anyhow, just had to show it off. Thanks for looking!!

- Mike

 

[wingsofwrath]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but to me this looks like a 3-inch shrapnel for the 3-inch Gun, Model of 1902 rather than a 75mm for the 75 mm Gun M1897 (the French Canon de 75 modèle 1897). The double crimping groove makes it pretty clear, because the 75x350mmR case is crimped at the top, so the shells have the crimping groove just below the driving band.
What makes it interesting though is how low the shoulder and bourrelet is and how elongated the ogive compared to the production drawings reproduced below:

 

[AKON_]

Yes , 3-inch US Shrapnel Shell, 1915.

 

[MINENAZ16]

Hi,
Not this one guys, but this one (different head) :

 

[MikeS0000]

Wow! Thanks Gents. You've gone way beyond my knowledge. The fuze that is on it is a 21 second example. It is not a Scovill, but is maker marked "BH". But now I need one of the long case

 

[AKON_]

 

[AKON_]

Mark BH ...

 

[MikeS0000]

Mark BH ...

That be it. Thank you!

 

[AKON_]

Source drawings fuse : Handbook of the 2.95-inch mountain gun matériel and pack outfit ... June 10, 1912

 

[wingsofwrath]

Hi,
Not this one guys, but this one (different head) :




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Ah, ok, so it' is from a 3-inch, but not the field gun I was thinking of but instead the 3-inch AA gun M1917 derived from the naval 3-inch Gun 1903, so MikeS0000 should also get himself a 76.2x690R case for the shell...

Interestingly, there was also an improved model of the AA gun, the M1918, which had a shorter barrel (40 calibres instead of 50 like the M1917 or 55 on the M1903) and used a shorter 76.2x585R case lenght but the same projectiles. This later one was taken from the Driggs-Seabury naval 3-inch Gun M1898 (the smaller one on the left in MINENAZ16's picture) and was later also used for the 3-inch Gun M5 towed anti tank gun and the 3-inch Gun Motor Carriage M10 tank destroyer.

 

[MikeS0000]

Thank you Wings! I will be on the hunt!