82mm Mortar Shell with Hollow Charge?

[Draoich]

Hi,

I found a photo of a very strange 82mm Mortar Shell with a Hollow Charge. This is very odd and strikes me as very impractical. Does anyone know about this type?

Regards,


Regards,
Draoich

 

[Eggburt1969]

See previous forum post and replies.

Mortar ID Help

Hi All Anybody have any ID in this mortar round. Body is 80.9mm Dia. Length is 274.6mm Body has no markings Thanks in advance

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This 82 mm anti-armour mortar bomb, as part of a round, would normally be fired from a mortar with a direct-fire capability, such as the 2B9 (2Б9) automatic mortar.

 

[Draoich]

See previous forum post and replies.

Mortar ID Help

Hi All Anybody have any ID in this mortar round. Body is 80.9mm Dia. Length is 274.6mm Body has no markings Thanks in advance

www.bocn.co.uk

This 82 mm anti-armour mortar bomb, as part of a round, would normally be fired from a mortar with a direct-fire capability, such as the 2B9 (2Б9) automatic mortar.

Hi Eggburt1969,

I never thought of direct-fire mortars. Thank you for the information.

Regards,

Draoich

 

[strakv]

Hungary also made experiments with a 120mm HEAT mortar shell. I don’t know for what weapon, we didn’t have any direct fire 120mm’s.

 

[Eggburt1969]

Hungary also made experiments with a 120mm HEAT mortar shell. I don’t know for what weapon, we didn’t have any direct fire 120mm’s.

Maybe something equivalent to the then Soviet 2A51 (2А51) gun of the 2S9 (2С9) Nona-S (Нона-С) self-propelled gun-howitzer-mortar, or the 2B16 (2Б16) Nona-K (Нона-К) towed gun-howitzer-mortar?

 

[strakv]

I was thinking about the Nona too, but we didn’t have it inventory. I was also thinking about the Czech SPM-85 PRAM, but haven’t found any connection with Hungary so far.
BTW we also didn’t have the Vasilek, we only produced it for export.

 

[Eggburt1969]

I was thinking about the Nona too, but we didn’t have it inventory. I was also thinking about the Czech SPM-85 PRAM, but haven’t found any connection with Hungary so far.
BTW we also didn’t have the Vasilek, we only produced it for export.

Maybe both of the Hungarian 82 mm and 120 mm anti-armour mortar projectiles (bombs) were also intended for export?

 

[AKON_]

I was thinking about the Nona too, but we didn’t have it inventory. I was also thinking about the Czech SPM-85 PRAM, but haven’t found any connection with Hungary so far.
BTW we also didn’t have the Vasilek, we only produced it for export.

The scope and direction of your reasoning is certainly correct. In fact, the development of cumulative mines was also carried out in Czechoslovakia, in two calibers: 82; 120mm.Sometimes it happened that the development was not accepted by the army, but the production documentation was sold to another state - for example, the Vydra project, caliber 28mm - was bought by Yugoslavia. If it was for the cumulative mine project, I don't know..
Akon

 

[AKON_]

Hi,

I found a photo of a very strange 82mm Mortar Shell with a Hollow Charge. This is very odd and strikes me as very impractical. Does anyone know about this type?

Regards,

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Regards,
Draoich

I was interested in the fact that the mine has channels in the bottom for supplying gas to the fuse - from this I logically assume that the bottom fuse has pyrotechnic security element ....
Does anyone have a diagram of the fuse or anything about it?
Akon

 

[Eggburt1969]

I was interested in the fact that the mine has channels in the bottom for supplying gas to the fuse - from this I logically assume that the bottom fuse has pyrotechnic security element ....
Does anyone have a diagram of the fuse or anything about it?
Akon

The holes in the base assembly's sidewall may infer that the fuze uses a pyrotechnic arming component. It could just as easily mean the fuze uses gas-pressure for arming, or even both! I've certainly come across both methods to act as one stage in the arming sequence of a fuze.