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84mm Carl Gustav round

Falcon

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Not sure that this is the correct place to post, but today I got an inert 84mm Carl Gustav TP-T round. Obviously, as it has been fired, the blow-out base section is missing. What would it have looked like?
 
This is an example of a contemporary Bofors TPT cartridge.

Leo
 

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I have the case, but its only the base that would have held the primer etc. that I am missing.
 
Here is some markins and makeup of the older British HEAT cart case for the L40 HEAT round.
 

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84mm CarlGustav blow out base cap.

Hi Falcon, in reply to your post here is a picture of the "Blow out base" on a HEAT round.

I must apologise for the very poor quality picture !
 

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Rockets

Thanks for the photo Chris. Will I be able to find a one to go in there or are they blown to bits when the round is fired?

Will the TP-T projectile strip at all?
 
Blow out base

Hi Falcon in reply to your question, the sealing or "Blow out" disc is completely shattered and burnt on firing the round :tinysmile_cry_t4:

However if you want a complete one Phone the number below and tell him I sent you !!!

Steve on 01926812972

He has a selection of four or five to choose from unless they have sold !
Good luck !
 
Hi Falcon,
Here is some pics of my 84mm Carl Gustav rounds to share. The photo of the projectile along side the case is a recovered round from a training range in Australia.
Cheers, 50CAL.
 

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84mm Blow out disc

Here is a photo of the blow out disc on an 84mm HEAT RAP cartridge, unfortunately the photo is a little blurred.

Of more interest is a photo of the inside of a 84mm HEDP cartridge case. The projectile and propellant has been removed. The igniter would be inside the white plastic disc in the bottom. The flash from the igniter would ignite the propellant, which would then blow out the blow out disc and simultaneously propel the projectile toward the target.

The HEDP cartridge case has two primers, which are the brass pieces on either side.

Cheers,
 

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84mm drill

Picture of some 84mm drill i once had in my collection.
 

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84 MM Carl Gustav

Here is a picture of the Practice round I used to have with a "Proof" Cartridge.
I have noticed from these post's that there seems to be a good variety of types of "Practice" projectiles and until coming onto this site I had only ever come across this type !

Chris :tinysmile_shy_t:

Ooop's forgot the picture !
 
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I was given this L42A1 drill version on sunday by a fellow bocn member ,nicely marked up and 1973 dated.
 

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Hi here are some of my rounds, you can make the discs up from insulation board that is used in the electrical industry & as long as the threaded adapter is out the case mouth you can drop it in to place.
 

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Fascinating - thanks very much for the pics!

I have a question: the fired/recovered round does not seem to bear any evidence of having engaged the rifling in the barrel. Is the round designed that way? Is there another method of stabilizing the round in flight - such as making the round nose-heavy?
 
Fascinating - thanks very much for the pics!

I have a question: the fired/recovered round does not seem to bear any evidence of having engaged the rifling in the barrel. Is the round designed that way? Is there another method of stabilizing the round in flight - such as making the round nose-heavy?


The rifling is hard to see on elastic platsic driving bands, when you look at a fired Illum you will clearly see the rifling in the copper driving band. A "nose heavy" (forward point of gravity) HEAT would be a contradiction. The Czechosloovak RPG-75 used an aerodynamic stabilization system that worked without fins. One of the extremely few designs really implementing this systen.
 
A variety of Carl Gustav projectiles and rounds. The last projectile in the first photo is for the AT4. Carl Gustav cases are primed on the side, not the blow-out disk. You can see the primers on the sides of the cases on the 2nd, 4th, and 6th rounds in the second photo.
 

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Excellent info, thanks! I have another question RE: the blow-out disks:

I am awaiting approval to lawfully repair my M2 Carl Gustav. The Form 1 should be returned approved within the next 4 months.

Before firing it, however, I need to reload ammunition for it, of course. While there are many reloading obstacles to overcome (such as a suitable slow burning powder) I especially need more info on what/how the original blow-out discs are created. I've read that they are a "frangible" material and some cut-away photos almost suggest that they are essentially pressed, heavy card-board covered by a weather-proof seal of some type. Can anyone shed some light on these mysterious discs? Thanks in advance.
 
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