9 mm Identification Help

[John P]

Good evening everyone.

Attached are photos of two 9x19mm rounds I recently obtained at an ECRA meeting. Having got home I now can't remember what I was told about the.

The case is aluminium, the bullet is non magnetic. I think the NR on the headstamp indicates Not Reloadable (Recoverable)
CCI at 12 o'clock
R at 3 o'clock
9mm LUGER at 6 o'clock
N at 6 o'clock


Brass case and bullet is magnetic. Looking at the marks on the bullet I'm not sure if it's seated correctly

IMI at 12 o'clock
9 mm LUGER at 6 o'clock

If anyone can help it would be much appreciated.

Regards

John P

 

[Jimiles]

John, the 9mm with the green & white tip is an armour piercing 9mm CBAP Mk 2 manufactured by Conjay Arms Company Ltd. Conjay used to, and possibly still do, supply 'specialised' ammunition to the Home Office. They often used IMI cases.

 

[kiwieod]

green tip with white band has always been frangible in small arms ammunition.the blue tip one also looks like some sort of training,short range,simunition

 

[Jimiles]

The first cartridge is made by the Cascade Cartridge Co., Lewiston, Idaho. The 'N R' does indeed stand for 'non-reloadable'. I don't know the reason for this but I suspect they might be Berdan primed which are never easy to reload.

 

[John P]

Many thanks for this info Jim and Kiwieod. (Jim, sorry for not paying attention at Bisley!).

I've also put the same question regarding the aluminium cased round on the IAA site and for your info have been told it is a "Blazer" throw away cartridge fitted with a 115 gr Total Nylon Jacketed bullet.

Regards

John P