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I have seen these images via a mutual Italian collector. I was happy with that because in my article on Krupp export numbers (see this forum) I had the wrong dimensions. The number 784 II indicates a Krupp shell case number (reference to the drawing) and the number II means 2nd revision. It is most likely it is a for a Krupp gun, and since it has been manufactured as export during the war it is most likely intended for Bulgaria (my guess) or the Ottoman Empire. I really would like to know the matching gun like you!
During the Great War, Austria-Hungary, for the defense of Pola, had 9.5 cm M.15/B T. Hb. (Turret Howitzers). Generally, the "/B" indicated Belgium. The propellant charges contained in the cartridge case were modular. The ammunition types — shell, mine, and shrapnel — were fitted with Krupp fuzes. There are Austro-Hungarian drawings from the period showing 10 cm M.14 projectiles scaled down to 9.5 cm, as if they had planned to manufacture new ammunition.
The official Austro-Hungarian report states:
1 battery 9.5 cm ex-Belgian howitzers
(Austria-Hungary’s Last War, 1914-1918 - Translated by Stan Hanna _ Vol 6 (1917) P.58)
Hello,
interesting to know the manual you take pic.
Case is for 9,5cm L/16 Feld Haubitze. You can see dot at mouth used to hold shell to case. Yours doesn't have them or I don't see. Anyway I don't know this Howitzer.
I have AH Army 1918 manual where 9,5cm M15/B THb is listed. It's quite clear that it's a Krupp. Ammunition was supplied by german.
to confuse even more, here listed 9,5cm L14 Rheinmetall mountain gun with separate charge, tried by Austro Hungarian
Certainly your case it's a german made case with Krupp code marking.
Would be interesting to know what kind of krupp gun Belgian used in their fortress...
It's possible that 9,5cm FHB L/16 and 9,5cm M15/B THb have the same case?
Hello .without fuze 301 mm .
the fuze on mine is Gr z 14 n/a date 1917
ther is a drawing in book of Artillerie Allemande from Etat Major 2e Bureau et Artilleris (D.G.I.A)
This 9,5 cm shell (Name: 9,5 cm Gr.m.F.W.) is for the French 9,5 cm guns only (there was also a German made shrapnel shell for the French guns) but has nothing to do with the Krupp 9,5 cm gun.
I have never seen a Krupp 9,5 cm shell but a 9,5 cm shrapnel which was found in Belgium. It had the same construction like the Krupp 10.5 cm shells and 15 cm shells of the same era (semi-fixed rounds).
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