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A couple of 40mm L70 questions.

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I've got a couple questions about two L70 items, one I received last Monday and the other several months ago.
The first is a cutaway HE projectile. On the exterior it looks nearly identical to the standard US from the SGT York program, having the same profile as the XM822. On closer inspection however, a portion of the body appears to be spiral wrapped steel. On the cutaway portion you can see that it is a hi-frag body. With no markings to go by, is this a standard European design? Is the internal fragmentation balls, or wrapped wire? The outer wall is very thin, I assume that the spiral wrap is to allow even distribution of the fragmentation pattern, as the body would not produce effective fragments itself.
Earlier this week I traded for four M851 dummy cartridges, in a clip assembly. It has been nearly 40 years since SGT York, and racking my brain I cannot remember ever seeing the York rounds in a four round clip, or ever seeing a plastic clip. Admittedly, most of my time around York was not in the loading and ammo handing phase, it was on the other end of things. So can anyone tell me, is this a US or European (or both) item? Additionally, the attached photos show the rounds as received. My initial expectation is that this is two clips, and there should be only one. Is this correct? I haven't gotten a clip off the rounds yet, I'm waiting till I have one more set of hands available.
 

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IMG3998 seems to be an "exhibition round" of a prefragmented round developed by Bofors and produced by them and others (Breda in Italy), with a dummy VT fuse. A "Must" of the early 80s (I fired some of them with Thomson-CSF, now Thales, fuses for various customers). The sintered tungsten balls were a little small for defeating soviet antiship missiles of the time and we (French Navy) developed a 100 mm version with 1 gramme balls. Must have been promoted for SGT York as it was at the time the better and most expensive round available.
 
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