Are these ELAZ 55A Fuzes with an anti-handling/anti-disturbance feature?

[ChrisR]

Excuse my ignorance but I am familiar with Ys stamped on 50 Fuzes, but I have a couple of fuzes in my collection that are 55As with 'CPP Y' stamped on them.
So are these markings indicating they are anti-disturbance fuzes, or am I barking up the wrong tree.
And if they are, why have anti-handling on an an impact fuze, unless it was for bombs dropped too low?
Can someone please school me? I'm here to learn!

 

[sgdbdr]

german type 55A `Y` fuze?

Hi chaps, Im very happy with this for a tenner! im sure its a 55A `Y` fuze?

www.bocn.co.uk

 

[Fusse2004]

The 55 or 55A was used in bombs specifically for low-level attacks against railway lines and earthen embankments. For this reason, a spike was screwed onto the bombs and provided with a contact head.

 

[Fusse2004]

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[ChrisR]

Thanks for that. This is the first time I have seen a close-up photo of the contact head. So why would there be a 55A fuze with an anti-handling feature, or am I mistaken regarding the Y stamp?

 

[Fusse2004]

I found this in my documents.

 

[ChrisR]

Some good information there. Thanks.

 

[pat]

bonjour, les seules fusées anti manipulation que je connais sont celles de la série 0, pas la série 5 qui est pour un emploi général

 

[Olif917]

Hello every one, à traduire dans vos langues respectives, bonne lecture
Best regard

 

[microplastic]

Hello,

-Does anyone have a drawing of the EL AZ 55A? I only have the EL AZ 55.

–Is it confirmed that the marking "ccp y" stands for an anti-handling device? How was that implemented?

Regards

 

[Busta]

Hello,

-Does anyone have a drawing of the EL AZ 55A? I only have the EL AZ 55.

–Is it confirmed that the marking "ccp y" stands for an anti-handling device? How was that implemented?

Regards

Gotcha ;-)

 

[Busta]

"cpp" is a German wartime manufacturer code that appears on German Luftwaffe electrical bomb fuzes. Published code lists attribute it to Rheinmetall-Borsig AG, Guben. That attribution comes from one secondary list and has not yet been confirmed against a primary source. According to OP 1666, German Explosive Ordnance (US Navy, 1946), the code is followed by either the year of manufacture (e.g. "cpp 1942") or a letter-number group (e.g. "cpp x", "cpp Y 2a"), which probably identifies a factory lot. OP 1666 records "cpp" markings on the El AZ (25) B, (55) A, (76) A and (106)* fuzes, among others. What the suffix letters (x, y, a) mean is not documented there.

 

[microplastic]

thanks a lot, mate

 

[AKON_]

This specimen belongs to the category of bomb accessories/fuzes that have wires extending from the side of the fuze—a group that certainly includes the (55 A):​

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Druckring : ​

Another version that accounts for the wires from the fuse (side outlet)...

Photo source: FB, user l Ssglen Stuka Butler ​

Akon

 

[AKON_]

A long time ago, I saw a photo of a "Type 55A" unit, but it differed from the one described in the official documentation (I have continued to refer to it as "55A" for the sake of this discussion). This is the version I am looking for in actual photographs; here is a drawing provided by Fusse 2004 (thanks, Fusse 2004).
It features an aluminum body—unlike the version in the documentation, which has a sheet-metal body—and the wires exit from the front of the igniter rather than from the side.If you look at the diaphragm switch, it is clearly different in terms of its construction (for instance, a spring is missing...).


So, a question for the group: Has anyone seen it in person? Is anyone able to take a photo, or does anyone have any further information about it?I’m not sure if it’s a successor to the 55A, an unreleased sibling, or perhaps a competitor from the same "family"...Nothing but questions—as is usually the case!
Many thanks
Akon

 

[millsbomber]

Bit late here but some bits I have

 

[AKON_]

Bit late here but some bits I have

Hi Millsbomber,I’ll add a brief comment regarding your specimens:Regarding the impact rod: In L.Dv 4200 (1943), the component listed as "Din St 70" features an M14 thread. However, the technical drawing and text in the manual do not show the second, smaller thread—the one that allows for the attachment of an external diaphragm switch. (Although the impact rod has a male thread, and the switch also has a male thread, a connecting nut likely bridged the two. This was necessary to position the switch relative to the edge of the rod, ensuring it wouldn't be sheared off upon impact...)This represents a shift in interpretation. It makes sense that the impact rod was designed with greater functional versatility...As for the visual layout of the fuze: I noticed that two components—likely "impact contact 1" and "impact contact 2"—are missing; they probably broke off over time or didn't survive various relocations. That said, it in no way diminishes the exceptional nature of your specimen!!Otherwise, it serves as an excellent educational aid—it reveals the study materials they had access to, which in turn explains their level of understanding regarding how these fuzes functioned...In my view, it is top-tier quality; it would be a real pleasure to teach or explain concepts using such resources!

Hi Millsbomber, and everyone else who contributed—thank you for your time and for taking these photos.
Akon