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AUSTRIAN / KUK long 70mm artillery case (WW1) WEISS M BUDAPEST
- Thread starter kz11gr
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opinion : 7cm (66 mm) Marine guns Skoda D/18 ,D/26 ,D/30 ,D/50 next time next search .Complication : salut cartridge not standart lendth...
Do you know if Jugo or Czech did use same AH ammunition? I know Czech case marked 6.6cm with standard vz28 primer.
Hi Fert
-The army operated: 6.6cm Cannon vz.30 (on the patrol ship President Masaryk, i.e. on the Danube)
66x400R81,2 (vz.30)
-the ammunition is different when compared to the AH, i.e. the cartridge is different, the primer screw is different, the fuse is different, the powder and other details. -As for the ammunition for export in general, it was not the same as the ammunition introduced for the army, in the case of the comparison of Yugoslavia/Czechoslovakia, according to my information, it is also different. -The cartridge with the... "vz.28", -as for the primer screw (it has a thread / hole size W / 27.3mm) i.e. the army counted on the reuse of fired cartridges, therefore, where possible, it preferred this design to the blank.
Akon
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Hi Fert will try to answer you.This series of photos contains a factory cut of the ammunition, i.e. 6.6cm Sharp impact grenade cartridge vz.30 in a 90 degree cut design.The cartridge was "manufactured" in 1930 (this is an additional designation - in 1930 iron cartridges were not produced) and if I am not mistaken, it is painted steel - i.e. if this assumption based on the photo is correct, it is manufactured in the later years after 1939 (if the cartridge version is steel), the primer screw in 1931 (used from pre-war material stocks). It has the Škoda company emblem.Comment on the whole: it is manufactured for a German order by Škoda Plzeň because the real pre-war cartridges for the Czechoslovak Army (and export) were brass. Also, the version of the explosive charge where there is a cardboard case with the explosive charge is not a pre-war version. The body is two-piece, which does not agree with the comparison from the 1930 version, i.e. it is also made for a German customer. So, in short, it is possible to identify it by the components used until the war years. The fuse is missing in the picture: A special type for the 6.6cm impact grenade of the Škoda design was used. I had this type of drawing somewhere ... if I find it, I will put it here. It is possible to find the total manufactured numbers / invoiced prices of each type including prototypes. That is for the first series of photographs ... .
Akon
date: drawing 12/29.
PS: next time continued ...
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6.6cm Semi-armored grenade cartridge vz.30 .
Ammunition model -90 degree cut . (Factory version)
Used fuse: DZ 30 (does not have a fuse) unlike the PZD 30 type .
If it were a purely anti-armor type of ammunition, except for the body made of high-quality steel (heat-treated) .... it would have a PD 30 type fuse (without a fuse, PZD 30 or PZDR 34 .(dynamic delay and fuse).
Generally: fuse marked with the initial letter P are intended for anti-armor types of ammunition (there are two types of delay solutions), if it has the letter D it is intended for primarily semi-armored ammunition (example DVZR etc.)
Akon
PZD 30 fuse diagram
DZ 30
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8cm (7,65cm )
fuse DZ 30 ....see text above for fuse typ P.... or D ....(Skoda )
In the Czechoslovak Army, this type of ammunition was widely used only in the 8cm (7.65cm) fortress gun. Because field weapons and PT guns had 37(47) mm calibers, not larger calibers (therefore, ammunition of this type was primarily for export) until the introduction of fortress guns.
Akon
Example! solution of anti-tank here in the appendix for 8cm gun E 5 (fortress) Škoda. And compare with export version see German appendix ....D at that time Czechoslovak army did not have such type of ammunition in caliber ->7.5 cm. Before tanks came to the border with Czechoslovakia.
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