Bayonet ID needed

[BOUGAINVILLE]

I need an ID on this bayonet. The marking doesn't match any Japanese Arsenal markings and the quillion differs from that of the straight Japanese quillion.

I would really appreciate any clues as to it's origins and approximate value.

Many thanks,
Cheers,
BOUGAINVILLE

 

[MissingSomething]

Looks like a

Pattern 1860 Sword Bayonet for a Martini Henry.​

 

[Tmine35]

Are there any other markings visble on the bayonet? Steel scabbard is not typical British and British bayonets normally have several small stamps. It could also be Portugese.

 

[Dronic69]

Hi Robert,

(Welcome back!)

As MissingSomething stated, the construction of the cross-guard /quillions is definitely of the early Martini Henry sword bayonets style - could you post some photos of both sides of the handle?

The blade length shown is ~18.5" - most of the Pattern 1853, 1856, 1858 & 1860 had blade lengths around the 22.7" mark, except the 1855 which was 24", so it may have been shortened at some stage, although the continental production (European manufactured) ones did vary in blade lengths. Although the later patterns were shorter (~18") the cross-guard /quillion construction was different.

The scabbard definitely looks Japanese, but the original Martini-Henry ones had metal end fittings with leather between - like our 1907 pattern Ozzie bayonet.

Cheers

Drew

 

[Tmine35]

Got positive ID on a bayonets specialized website. It is Portugese model 1885 made by Steyr.

 

[BOUGAINVILLE]

Many thanks for all of the help in IDing the bayonet. I really appreciate everybody's help.