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Eiaz 25
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Nismosonic
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Im a firm believer that 25 y fuze as an anti disturbance fuze is a mistake, and was how fuzeman stated, Looked like a 25 but NOT a 25, actually a 50 fuze. I would think the German armourers would have had a logistical nightmare if there was a "special" 25 as well as a impact version, there doesnt appear to be any evidence from German manuals to sugest this was the case either.
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Fuzeman
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Old fuzemans going to throw his bit in to confuze everybody he he
The two (55)A fuzes i have here one is marked CPP y and the other is marked
CPP X therefore the y does not in this case stand for an extra Ie nose switch it must be some kind of subsidary marking, very strange because both fuzes are from batch 8a
The two (55)A fuzes i have here one is marked CPP y and the other is marked
CPP X therefore the y does not in this case stand for an extra Ie nose switch it must be some kind of subsidary marking, very strange because both fuzes are from batch 8a
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Fuzeman
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Hi Alex I have one too these fuzes had a shorter arming time than the normal (9) which made them unsuitable for low level bombing.
They are Not anti disturbance fuzes just a normal airburst fuze
They are Not anti disturbance fuzes just a normal airburst fuze
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Fuzeman
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I think this thread has run its course , but will just add this description should cover the Y fuze saga
The (50) was a standard Electrical , Condenser , Resistance fuze , its charge being held in a condenser , that would slowly discharge over a relative short period where as the
(50)B Y Contained a Seperate Battery operated circuit , the batteries could hold their charge for several years.
The (50) was a standard Electrical , Condenser , Resistance fuze , its charge being held in a condenser , that would slowly discharge over a relative short period where as the
(50)B Y Contained a Seperate Battery operated circuit , the batteries could hold their charge for several years.
Not putting this to bed yet........
Ive just been looking through some of my stuff and found thistraining info what i believe is from around the 1980s..plenty of mention of 25 Y fuzes been anti distubance...and yes it also states that not all "Y " stamps indicate anti disturbance
Ive just been looking through some of my stuff and found thistraining info what i believe is from around the 1980s..plenty of mention of 25 Y fuzes been anti distubance...and yes it also states that not all "Y " stamps indicate anti disturbance
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waffenamt
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satan18
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Good for you Spott....I also would agree that a Mod or Admin decides when a thread has run its course!...:tinysmile_shutup_t:
Just to throw a spanner in the works i present a picture borrowed from a friend of mine im hoping to work a deal with...
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waff
Aye up do we have a genuine 25 y in our midst :marchmellow:
some more pics at your leasure my friend
Best phil
butterfly
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Good for you Spott....I also would agree that a Mod or Admin decides when a thread has run its course!...:tinysmile_shutup_t:
Just to throw a spanner in the works i present a picture borrowed from a friend of mine im hoping to work a deal with...
best
waff
Nice photo waff !! Is this the end of a long-running mystery?
Photographic evidence of 25 with a Y marking.
Steve also commented earlier on seeing an x-ray of a 25Y fuze. It sure would be good to have the one in the photo x-rayed too!
I find it difficult to believe that so much has been written about the existance of a 25Y fuze, that it was all just an initial misunderstanding. There is a lot of documents out there with mention of a 25 Y anti-disturbance fuze. So maybe here it is at last.
Well done Paul in sourcing the photo, of course the final evidence lies within. I wonder if we are close to finally putting this one to bed???
regards
Kev
Nismosonic
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according to Spotters document the 25 Y fuze is a B variety, and the one in Waffs pic is a D I believe. Would love to see it out of that pocket though, looks like it may be a bit dificult to remove.
waffenamt
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Yeah,just seen the D after the elaz 25. Looks like we were all hooked on the 'Y'!!
best
waff
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Nismosonic
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and noticed it was same as 55 with not having the 3 screws.
Nismosonic
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dont think the D had the selector.. was pretty much a 55. Is that right Fuzeman ? there is a rough 25D on SA.... http://www.specialistauctions.co.uk/auctiondetails.php?id=1415886
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John D. Bartleson Jr.
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ELAZ 25B Y Fuze;
In the book "Unexploded Bomb, a History of Bomb Disposal by Major A. B. Hartley, MBE, RE, Chapter 11, "Getting on Top 1943", page 141, Major W.G. Parker found a 25B Y fuze along with Captain F. Caryle. They attempted to use the liquid fuze discharger which failed to fill the fuze. It had to be manually removed with hammer and chisel and taken to the boffins which determined it was designed to operate like the 50 Y. A later radiograph would discover a second one.
Steve this may well be the radiograph that you saw.
Regards,
John aka Bart
In the book "Unexploded Bomb, a History of Bomb Disposal by Major A. B. Hartley, MBE, RE, Chapter 11, "Getting on Top 1943", page 141, Major W.G. Parker found a 25B Y fuze along with Captain F. Caryle. They attempted to use the liquid fuze discharger which failed to fill the fuze. It had to be manually removed with hammer and chisel and taken to the boffins which determined it was designed to operate like the 50 Y. A later radiograph would discover a second one.
Steve this may well be the radiograph that you saw.
Regards,
John aka Bart