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Gspragge

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3 Pdr, Solid shot, unmarked, flat tipped, unfinnished band. I didn't know these existed.

17 Pdr. APDS/T

Unknown projectile ?

naturally none of these are kinds I collect !:tinysmile_eyebrow_t
 

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Looks like a 76mm HESH for Scorpion Tank

Here is a PRAC round
 

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Could the first one be a unfinished reband?

The band looks cleaner than the rest of the proj.

The APDS looks nice, will the caulking come off?
 
Thanks

I thought it kind of thick to squash, but I'm out of my element and it certainly matches yours. The caulking came off easily it didn't stick well at all, no damage. I don't think it is a reband, not done over here by any one that I have ever heard of. On the other hand it could be just a piece of copper pipe pushed over the projectile. Although the ends of the copper are smooth and equally dirty so it's been on it for a very long time. The only way to tell I guess is to machine it to match another projectile and finish it ! I don't have a 3 pr. to match to do this if I should. If it's a scarse projectile then it may be up to a future new owner to decide, not me.
 
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Non machined band!

The three pounder projectile has not had its Driving Band machined and the "lugs" as they appear are where the copper has been swaged onto the body, normally the next step would be to machine the band to finish size.

The 17 pounder and 77mm APDS/T round is fairly rare and a nice item to have.

The last projectile is as Glevum states from a 76 mm Armoured Car (ARMDC) for the scorpion's gun.
 
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Picked up today ----

I don't know wether the "band" has been squeezed on under pressure, perhaps I could take it to a Hydraulic hose place and have them squeeze it.

Today these came along !

Nice U.S. 6 Pr. MKlll MOD 8 1918 came in an EP 97 Belgian case

Hotchkiss heavy 1Pr. in coiled case, saddly no fuze.

More stuff I don't collect ! :tinysmile_eyebrow_t
 

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I forgot this relic ~

used once 25 Pdr. base ejection smoke. Somebody painted it green, I can see some light blue under it ? Oh well something for the next show.
 

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It is black, another one was posted in blue does the colour black mean anything ? The Black is original. It seemed kind of thick to sguash, so perhaps these are hollow and made to weigh the same as the live thinner bodied projectile ? This sort of thing is out of my limited range of knowlege !
 
An inert 76 mm SH/Prac L40A1 is available for training purposes. The L40A1 is similar overall to the service L29 HESH-T although the explosive filling is replaced by an inert high-explosive substitute.
It is possible to fit this round with a live fuze, together with a flash pellet, to provide an indication of the point of impact by the production of flash and a cloud of smoke. At realistic combat ranges the 76 mm SH/Prac L40A1 matches the L29 HESH-T trajectory and has the same weights.

Source: Jane's Ammunition handbook. 1999-2000.

Canadian company SNC Industrial Technologies Inc produce an equivalent round to the above as 'Cartridge 76 mm SH/P C-59'.
 
Only needs machining!

I don't know wether the "band" has been squeezed on under pressure, perhaps I could take it to a Hydraulic hose place and have them squeeze it.

Today these came along !

Nice U.S. 6 Pr. MKlll MOD 8 1918 came in an EP 97 Belgian case

Hotchkiss heavy 1Pr. in coiled case, saddly no fuze.

More stuff I don't collect ! :tinysmile_eyebrow_t

Gordon-your "Band" HAS been squeezed on and only lacks the final machining to size !
The two or three raised sections are where the collars were fitted in order to squash the copper into the Driving Band groove.
Nice items !
 
Maybe

It is possible to fit this round with a live fuze, together with a flash pellet, to provide an indication of the point of impact by the production of flash and a cloud of smoke. At realistic combat ranges the 76 mm SH/Prac L40A1 matches the L29 HESH-T trajectory and has the same weights.

Source: Jane's Ammunition handbook. 1999-2000.)

Maybe the blue one as posted is the inert version, the black one has the fuse & flash unit. There must be a way to tell which is which. The HE version I presume is green.
 
HE different shape

It is possible to fit this round with a live fuze, together with a flash pellet, to provide an indication of the point of impact by the production of flash and a cloud of smoke. At realistic combat ranges the 76 mm SH/Prac L40A1 matches the L29 HESH-T trajectory and has the same weights.

Source: Jane's Ammunition handbook. 1999-2000.)

Maybe the blue one as posted is the inert version, the black one has the fuse & flash unit. There must be a way to tell which is which. The HE version I presume is green.

The High Explosive shell is a completely different shape to the Prac SH and HESH shells.
 
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