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[spotter]

I have just received this fuze it looks very similar to the ADC 583 shown in this topic but is made of brass not bakelite..

PTAB 10-5 HEAT-FRAG clusterbomb, Russia

Cutaway model of a PTAB 10-5 HEAT-FRAG (shaped charge and franmentation) clusterbomb. This 10,5 kg heavy Russian clusterbomb is from the 1950’s of the last century. The bomb body, the nose piece, the tail and the cone are steel made. In the base of the clusterbomb the ADC-583 impact tail impact...

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Thank you for looking
Allan

 

[Chris]

Alan this document says it is also made out of steel.

Regards Chris

 

[Eggburt1969]

Just a point of note, the UK standard (BS 2979:1958 and BGN/PCGN) format transliteration of its Russian 'АДЦ' designation is ADTs, and not an ADS. Other transliterations of the capital 'Ц' character can be: C; Cz, T͡s; and Tc.

Secondly the 583 is the Russian (Soviet) factory code, and not part of its designation. Factory 583 is actually known as Saranskiy Mehanicheskiy Zavod (RU: Саранский Механический Завод), short form FKP SMZ (RU: ФКП СМЗ).

 

[AKON_]

My opinion, it is a non-functional replica that is supposed to represent (very remotely) the bomb fuse ADC-583. Probably of Western origin ....Although it has some of the same shapes, it is not even a functional replica ... see the hole for the blades - the propellers are missing - they are not even remotely capable of rotating in the air.The fuse is made rather by misunderstanding the function and ultimately the shape.The fuse 's marking is АДЦ-583, on the plastic fuse body in the original there is a manufacturer's code -Letter (in Russian) . Therefore, the marking is as I wrote, not that the manufacturer is (code) 583.

Akon
Maybe it would be interesting to reveal how much you paid for it?

 

[spotter]

Thanks everyone for the replies,,since getting it this morning ive given it a clean up and found its not a inerted fuze but just a solid lump of brass, with poorly scratched on markings, wether it was made as a drill fuze or just a teaching prop i dont know, now it identifys as a paper weight.

 

[spotter]

My opinion, it is a non-functional replica that is supposed to represent (very remotely) the bomb fuse ADC-583. Probably of Western origin ....Although it has some of the same shapes, it is not even a functional replica ... see the hole for the blades - the propellers are missing - they are not even remotely capable of rotating in the air.The fuse is made rather by misunderstanding the function and ultimately the shape.The fuse 's marking is АДЦ-583, on the plastic fuse body in the original there is a manufacturer's code -Letter (in Russian) . Therefore, the marking is as I wrote, not that the manufacturer is (code) 583.

Akon
Maybe it would be interesting to reveal how much you paid for it?

Hi Akon, i just posted and your post before mine confirms it...
I didnt pay much at all £15 plus postage so not a big loss

 

[Fusse2004]

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