German 2cm Pzgr ID

[MINENAZ16]

Hello,

Does anyone could give me more details on this round (pictures from internet).
First time I see a 2cm with pzgr shape with only one yellow ring above the driving band. I assume for a yellow tracer. But what is the filling and the designation ?

Regards

 

[Yodamaster]

Have a look in the Deminest from pg 9251 (if I'm not wrong !).


Yoda

 

[Weasel]

Hi Minenaz16,
This is not one i have seen before, the only MG151/20 to have a yellow (Tracer) band above the driving band is a Ub projectile but that would not normally be painted black and would have arrows stamped in the body. I have seen a Ph projectile witjh a yellow band as yours but also with the Ph stencil and blue band. are there any makings on the base fuze/tracer pocket ?
Best regards Weasel.

 

[MINENAZ16]

Hello,

Yoda, nothing in Deminest. I have a lot of german original documentation (maybe the same used by HB to write Deminest series) and I can't find this round.

Weasel, sorry but I don't have other pictures. The shell seems to be fitted with a base fuze.

I found only this russian doc :






Regards

 

[Weasel]

I would say looking at one in my collection that you are correct and it is a base fuze with tracer. I have attached a picture to show it, the round is a APHE in MGFF case,
Best regards Weasel.

 

[MINENAZ16]

I haven't taken time to watch the fuze, I was focused on the yellow band, and I don't recognize this base fuze (if it's a fuze...).
I assume the fuze you show is a Bdz1512 ; the device on my pictures seems different.

 

[blackwatch]

Shell is 2 cm Flak and the case 2 cm mg 151,

 

[MINENAZ16]

The owner didn't take photos of all markings.
Maybe something like Ph on this picture.

 

[MINENAZ16]

Ok, found it in my doc.
WP filling with a different tracer from the one I know (screw shape).