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German 9cm shells pre WW1

Burney Davis

Burney Davis

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There are a number of models of this shell going back to I believe 1873 (gun Mle 1873/88). I have always thought that these guns were bag charge and did not use shell cases. My question - were any of these shells from the 9 cm Gr 82 onward ever fitted to a case (separate load) and used with this or any other model of gun that did not use bag charge?

Thanks in advance.

BD
 
Burney Davis said:
There are a number of models of this shell going back to I believe 1873 (gun Mle 1873/88). I have always thought that these guns were bag charge and did not use shell cases. My question - were any of these shells from the 9 cm Gr 82 onward ever fitted to a case (separate load) and used with this or any other model of gun that did not use bag charge?

Thanks in advance.

BD
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It's been a long time, just bumping this thread to see if any one new has the answer.

Thanks

D
 
kz11gr said:
Hi

I don't totaly agree with you

I have seen a (only one) case , certainly for a Flak conversion of this old caliber.

Logical, when you think that a normal fire with a pownder bag is too long and too difficult when the gun fires verticaly.

Jb
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I confirm that there is a case for the 9 cm used by the Flak
It's 149 mm long with a base diameter of 104 mm

Pascal
 
Bumping this old topic to ask:

a) Does anyone have pictures where this powderbag can be clearly seen?
b) and also of this "flak" case please.

The only picture that I found in connection with this, shows a container for gunpowder.
(quite high res. Found it on flicker via google images. It is watermarked
and I hope this person is also a member of this forum.)

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Here is a picture of the powder bag

There is a picture of the FLAK cartridge case in Bernard DELSERT's book "LA FLAK 1914-1918" volume 2
 

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Thanks for the pic', this was my last missing link. ;-)

So these bags were kept in those kind of containers for fire protection?
 
For a couple off years I was wondering if I could trace back the origins off a certain, what I thought was a German powder chest and, now I am looking at this threat and wat do I see. My copper powder chest on the picture .
I found two off these marked 1933 (and not ww1) one with on the lid reichswehr and ss mark they where going to the old metal dealer, but I bought them because I tought they where something special. My question is solved. Thanks for the pic.
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