Hungarian 81mm Mortar round

[FHGrStg]

Here is my own piece.
It was manufactured in the Lng Lajos Gpgyr (Budapest, Vci street 152-156) prime contractor, it was assembled at 1944.

Length: 316mm (with fuze)
Weight: 4,1kg
Filled with: 473g TNT
Fuze: 36/81M mortar shell fuze

The shell:


... in the shell body: LL (Lng Lajos prime contractor); the production year; and the Hungarian crown: receipt stamp.

The head screw:

...with the LOT number.

The stabilizer:

... with the 2/34 flame transmitter hole; and the 12 pieces of wings.

The 40M screwed ignition cartridge:

... MO means the manufacturer: Vadsztltnygyr, Magyarvr city.

Best regards,

Peter

 

[Mariusz Loslau]

Hi,
Very Nice!
Here smoke round I'think;

Regards.

 

[FHGrStg]

Hi Loslau!
Thanks!

I remember, I posted this picture long time ago, about the 39/36M smoke mortar shell, to the amunicja.poszukivania.pl forum. :tinysmile_shy_t:
You can see the head screw with the detonator, it was one piece worked out, this is his mainly characteristic.

 

[APFSDST]

Wow! It's beautiful! I would like one same, in this condition. But where is the fuze?

 

[FHGrStg]

Wow! It's beautiful! I would like one same, in this condition. But where is the fuze?

Hi my friend!
The fuze... I have only first 36/81M modification, from brass. :tinysmile_shy_t:

 

[juice]

 

[EOD]

Maybe worth to note that these are Rheinmetall designs which got licenced.

 

[strakv]

Do you know the original designation of the round and the fuze?

 

[Nabob]

Revisiting an old thread I have some questions.

On the pictures is a variant of the 36/81M fuze without a detonator. Markings 14 R 37
It was used with gr Zdlg C/98 from 1936.

Is this German export to Hungary?
What was the designationof the fuze?

Thanks, Bob

 

[MINENAZ16]

Hello,
Discussion on same fuze : https://www.wk2ammo.com/showthread.php?7781-Mortar-fuze&highlight=HUNGARIAN+MORTAR+FUZE
other one : https://www.wk2ammo.com/showthread.php?696-unknown-Fuze&highlight=HUNGARIAN+MORTAR+FUZE

I know a fuze with similar shape and arabic markings made by Rheinmetall for Afganistan (1930's era)
Bulgarian used also a similar fuze during ww2 with cyrillic markings

I'm sure Alpini could help.

 

[FHGrStg]

The original designation:
Emp. Kzdr. f. Fl. M. m. M.

 

[FHGrStg]

@Nabob

In 1938, made approx 400 pieces to smoke from german HE rounds.
In the manual, you can see the original fuze designation.

 

[Nabob]

Thank You!
That is excelent information.
Here some more pictures of the fuze.
So who is the manufacturer R as Rheinmetal?
Bob

 

[greif]

Apparently this mortar shell was also in the Italian inventory.