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I need identification of two fuzes please?

DreamPhoto

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First is impact fuze, no any markings. Second is time fuze, only marking is on upper time ring, "T" and "12" placed with gas escape hole between.
Any idea ?
 

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Hi Yoda !
Here is dimensions : First is 41 mm width in base, and 23 mm. height. Second is half missing , upper time ring is 44 mm. in width .
Thanks for help !

More photo !
 

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