ID of french AA shells of 75 mm please

[sigges]

Hello fellow collectors,

a friend has three different french AA shells of 75 mm.

I have problems assigning them correctly.

Can you please help us?



Here are the dimensions, from left to right:

Obus à charge arrière
Body 237 mm
Ogive 38 mm (without thread)
Total 335 mm

Obus à charge arrière
Body 227 mm
Ogive 45 mm (without thread)
Total 332 mm

Obus à charge mélangée
Body 207 mm
Ogive 65 mm (without thread)
Total 332 mm

Thanks for your help.

Greetings from Germany,

Siegfried (Sigges)

 

[sigges]

Hello again.

I got the information that the shell on the far right is the 1897/11 M.

But which models are the other two? Can someone please identify them?

Kind regards

Siegfried

 

[tnor_fr]

The center model is a 1917 model
The content next to a classic model 97

 

[tnor_fr]

The fuze 30/55 mle 13 and the piece of wood

 

[sigges]

Hello tnor_fr,

thanks for that great information!

So there is only the left one still unidentified ....

Any idea about that one anyone?

Greetings from Germany

Siegfried

 

[MINENAZ16]

Hello,
Only 3 different models known in my doc (1897 with heavy balls, 1917 and 1911) fuzed 30/55 time fuze model 1913, with 2 different sizes of head but not 3 (no dimension in my doc).
I found a short head on ww1 battelfield with a 30/55 T and P fuze model 1889 T (see picture) . Nothing in my doc about a shell with this fuze (so not for AA).
You could have a look to see if your fuzes are model 13 (short queue) or model 1889 (long queue).
Regards

 

[sigges]

I asked the owner of the shells, and he told me that the two left shells (those with shorter ogives, the unknown one and the Mle. 1917) have 30/55 with long queue.

Which surprises me as i had thought the Mle. 1917 should have used the short queued version.

Greetings from Germany,

Siegfried

 

[sigges]

And yet another information: The ogive of the left, unknown shell bears the same wooden piece as tnor_fr's Mle. 1917.

 

[tnor_fr]

I do not know this model with a 38mm cap
I have also a 75mm mle 11 wiith a 30/55 mle 13

I have a long model of 30/55 (double effet) on a 105mm shrapnel (i have to make a picture)

 

[sigges]

Hello tnor_fr,

thanks for your reply!

It's strange. Noone knows that shell on the left.

Maybe it's of different origin, not french?

Greetings from Germany,

Siegfried