Identification cartridge 27mm (German flare ?)

[MINENAZ16]

Hello,
I found yesterday with german flare "Rauchbndelpatrone" and "Pfeifpatrone" strange cartridges I can't identify.

-First (short)
Length : 70mm
Length case : 60mm
Diameter : 27mm
Base diameter : 30mm





-Second
Length : 125mm
Length case : 115mm
Diameter : 27mm
Base diameter : 30mm




Best Regards

 

[EOD]

These are Czechoslovak.

 

[MINENAZ16]

Thanks EOD.

Do you have more details, particularly on the short one with a strange ball on top.

 

[EOD]

The short one is a single white star.

 

[MINENAZ16]

Thank you EOD.
I assume the second one is red star.

 

[EOD]

Its is a red signal but here I do not know exactly if a smoke or a light signal. Also it may have a parachute. Have to find out. Will come back is so.

 

[EOD]

Ok, I got the info, it is the so called vz.1936 "red rain", an 8 star cartridge without parachute.

The short one is the vz.1936 and the case is made by R. Hornsteiner in Prague.

 

[MINENAZ16]

Great EOD, I appreciate the references,
many thanks !!