Identification help PLEASE!

[dano1917]

Here is a picture of a round up for sale that I am pondering whether or not to buy it. First of all I apologize for the pic quality but it would not let my PC copy it so I had to photograph the moniter. It is 3 inches in diameter and 7 inches tall. They are calling it a WWI French pneumatic mortar round. Is this correct. It is a bit pricy so I want to be sure it is what they say it is and I am not well versed on the French rounds. HELP.....Dano

 

[highlandotter]

identifacation, please

that's what it is. Not to common in the US.Would be a nice display piece depending on condition. Highlandotter

 

[dano1917]

donka

Thanks otter, The condition is EXCELLENT. It even has the force fit wood fuze plug still! Price is 250.00 US but I think it may be worth it. What do you think? And yes I think would make a good conversation/display piece....Dano

 

[super7]

Dano, this is the picture you are refering to.

Regards, Jan

 

[dano1917]

HoW????

Jan, How do you do it. I cannot get my PC to copy anything off of GWM site, and yes that is the critter. By the way what do you think of it as I value your opinion highly? Dano

 

[super7]

Dan, nice piece but way over priced. Price should be around $100-150.

Regards, Jan

 

[dano1917]

Yes Jan, I guess it is over-priced. I guess i'll take a pass on this one. After all i'm the one always griping about overpaying for ordnance. I guess my hipocracy only goes so far..Dano

 

[doctor]

Hi
77 mm french Guidetti grenade, not pneumatic launcher, loading with pressure of 11 mm special Gras cartridge.(not mortar round)

 

[Pascal]

Hello

I agree with Doctor.

And it's the second model for this kind of grenades 77mm (the first were round shaped)

 

[Yodamaster]

Guidetti grenade 2nd model

Hi Dano,
should it be something like this ?

Yoda

 

[Yodamaster]

Guidetti grenade, launcher

If you are interested, here come the launcher

 

[Yodamaster]

Guidetti grenade 1st model and 65 mm model

And now, the first model of 77 mm grenade and the 65 mm grenade

Enjoy Dano

Yoda

 

[dano1917]

Thanks to all for the helpful information, but whether a pneumatic or Guidetti grenade, both had to be launched so would not they both be mortars??? Just can't comprehend launching by manual throwing.... Dano

 

[dano1917]

I ripped this pic off another forum, it is what they're calling a pneumatic mortar shell. Yodamaster was kind enough to provide pics of the Guidetti launcher, and if the Guidetti is not a mortar than it is certainly some sort of artillery related item. Were there different pneumatic French rounds? Dano

 

[dano1917]

positive ID

Found this googling, it is Guidetti mortar, and yes it is a MORTAR..Dano
Have weighing pros and cons about buying this piece, well here goes
Cons - overpriced by about 100.00us
- not the pneumatic I was looking for

Pros - Don't see these - EVER
- maybe not pneumatic morter but it is Guidetti WW1 French mortar just the same
It is in the US and I phone the order - will have in 2 days
It is "bitchin' looking and I want it

I ordered it and should be here Friday this week (I broke my own rule about overpaying for ordnance but this is one piece I must have
Will look good next to granatewerfer and granateschnellwerfer (and also stokes when I find one)

 

[dano1917]

Guidetti mortar arrived

What I have been able to put together through BOCN members and a bit of googlemania. I have at least a partial answer for this piece. It arrived today via UPS (2nd day after I called order in). About 1/2 of the sources say mortar and the other half say rifle grenade. It was launched from a mortar looking tube with a rifle looking butt on the end. Appearantly it was launched via spring tension. Experience and common sense makes me think this thing is a mortar all the way. Especially with the protractor that can be locked at a specific angle. I show pics of it right after I unpacked it and a few other pictures showing the launcher with the exact projectile. Call it what you will but I get goosebumps when I look at it. The wood fuze plug is driven in the projectile and obviously could be fired from a plethora of angles or trajectories. I absolutely love this piece and displays nicely next to Granatenwerfer projectile, and a Stokes (when I get one!!). Let the pictures do the talking...Dano