Identify please

[spotter]

Could someone identify this item please , there are no markings on it at all it it appears to have a firing pin inside i dont know if its complete or not or wether its ordnance related at all..
Thanks for looking
allan

 

[Ivashkin]

Could someone identify this item please , there are no markings on it at all it it appears to have a firing pin inside i dont know if its complete or not or wether its ordnance related at all..
Thanks for looking
allan

Allan,
I think you got Finnish chemical delay fuze from WWII.

 

[Buster]

Looks to me like a German WW1 automatic delay device.

 

[Ivashkin]

Looks to me like a German WW1 automatic delay device.

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Simillaf fuzes produced in few countries

 

[Bellifortis]

Simillaf fuzes produced in few countries

Hallo Ivashkin,
you say, that this device was produced by many countries. The first appearance I see documented is in WW 1 by the germans. Do you have any documentation of it's appearance before WW 1 and may be even a person that may have been the inventor ? I'm very much looking forward to your knowledgable answer.
regards,
Bellifortis.

 

[Tmine35]

Allan,
I think you got Finnish chemical delay fuze from WWII.

Interesting manual Ivashkin, Finnish WW2 manuals do not know this fuze, we had totally different design bakelite fuze for the same purpose.

 

[spotter]

Thanks everyone for identifying this for me

 

[Ivashkin]

Interesting manual Ivashkin, Finnish WW2 manuals do not know this fuze, we had totally different design bakelite fuze for the same purpose.

Very interesting to hear it
Soviet manual talk it`s Finnish fuze. Manuals dated 1942 and 1943. Manual has ant mechanical time delay fuze. very simillar to Soviet ChMV-16, but with another delay - 10 hours insted of 16.
Can you show your bakelitel fuze?

 

[Tmine35]

Sorry but I have for the moment only this picture of Finnish M/40 chemical time fuze.

 

[EOD]

Are there more images available or schemes or manuals?

 

[Ivashkin]

Sorry but I have for the moment only this picture of Finnish M/40 chemical time fuze.

This fuze on my picture, am I right?

On my picture contactor version, but on your - fuze and has primer.

 

[Tmine35]

Yours is diffderent of shape and the contactor version neither appears in Finnish WW2 manuals. However there are some time fuzes which Finnish patrols used behind enemy lines and which were non-standard and do not exist in manuals. I have a sectional drawing of the primer version shown in my photo but it will take some time to get it scanned.

 

[Ivashkin]

Hallo Ivashkin,
you say, that this device was produced by many countries. The first appearance I see documented is in WW 1 by the germans. Do you have any documentation of it's appearance before WW 1 and may be even a person that may have been the inventor ? I'm very much looking forward to your knowledgable answer.
regards,
Bellifortis.

Hallo Belifors,
Unfortunatly I don`t have any documents about appearence this fuze. I know only about WWI.In one Sovit article two version of this fuze. It`s one of them.

ivan.

 

[Tmine35]

Here finally sectional drawing of Finnish chemical time delay fuze for blasting cap.