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Italian 42x 185 Lorenz Tempini cartridge case

Rrickoshae

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Please see the photos of an Italian 42 x 185 cartridge case. Is it normal for these cases only to have the manufacturers details but no date or inspectors stamps? And is it WW1 or WW2?

many thanks, DaveIMG_0363.jpegIMG_0365.jpeg
 
Mine is just like that one.
Hmm, so this isn’t the only one. Strange that it has no date or inspection stamps - maybe those identifying characters were stencilled on the case rather than stamped into them. Hopefully someone with a knowledge of Italian ordnance will advise us
 
Hello,
it's the early production by Tempini, later MB (Metallurgica Bresciana).
Cases marked MB observed from 1915 onward

Tempini with primer marked october 1898
tempini.jpg

MB 1916 with standard marking
MB 16.jpg

regards
 
Can any of our Italian friends post a picture of a complete round, projectile or drawing of the projectile. It would be appreciated.
 
Hello,
here some italian 42mm Nordenfeldt rounds:
standard rounds are HE shell and Canister
42mm 1.jpg


HE shell loaded with black powder (CN white marking and red ogive) percussion fuze mod. 1889
Canister (Mitraglia)
APHE shell was not mentioned in italian manuals, I think it's part of trial supply
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this is same shell as above with mod 1910 fuze
IMG_3102.jpeg

in use by Argntina
2-96.jpg

regards
 
Hello,
here some italian 42mm Nordenfeldt rounds:
standard rounds are HE shell and Canister
View attachment 211794


HE shell loaded with black powder (CN white marking and red ogive) percussion fuze mod. 1889
Canister (Mitraglia)
APHE shell was not mentioned in italian manuals, I think it's part of trial supply
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this is same shell as above with mod 1910 fuze
View attachment 211793

in use by Argntina
View attachment 211795

regards
Fantastic information, thanks Fert
 
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