Italian cartridges

[Mathias]

Hello,

Can somebody tell me a bit more about the manufacturer and the following markings of these Italian cartridges?

First is a 47X195R from 1943 with the markings:
MI
GP (in a rhombus)
34 underlined 124

The primer is marked with:
M35-T 1
B-42-TG (in an oval)


Second is a 65X172R from 1937 with the markings:
MI
CPVC (in an oval)

The primer is marked with:
M13-PB 4
PB-39-PG (in an oval)


Third is a 75X185R from 1931 with the markings:
MB
AP (with a crown above and in an oval)

The primer is marked with:
G 1 4
93


Thanks,
Mathias

 

[Falcon]

MB on the second one is Meccanica Brescia. Unfortunately I don't know what MI is.

 

[fert]

Hi
italian ww2 case headstamps are easy to read;
the factory: MB, MI, ANS, SMI....
the lot/the year;
1/1943 or 2/1943 - it means 1st semester of 1943 or 2nd semester of 1943
the inspector mark;
AA, GP, PB, CPVC.... in some cases you can find the arsenal mark (AP with crown)
the identification of gun
47/32 - 65/17 - 75/27 = the caliber of the gun and the lenght of the barrel in caliber

italian primer headstamp are similar to above menthioned;
the model = M35, M13, M29...
place and date of manufacture = B41, PB41, C16, MB42......
the inspector mark = as above


MI= Metallurgica Italiana
GP= inspector mark
34/124=unknown

M35= modello 1935 T-1 I think reporteded to lot
B-42 TG= made in Pirotecnico di Bologna 1942 TG=inspector mark

CPVC=inspector mark
M13= modello 1913
PB= Pirotecnico di Bologna (same as B)

MB= Meccanica Bresciana (Falcon it's right)
AP= Arsenale di Piacenza

G 14 93 = I think it's an old italian ww1 primer

best regards

 

[Mathias]

Thanks a lot for the information fert!

Best regards,
Mathias