Lemon

[dano1917]

I feel like a complete idiot even asking this, but does the lemon in the picture appear real or is it on of those surplus circuit specials. I am a fish out of water on these and any and all help greatly appreciated. Dano

 

[banksy-2k10]

hi dano im no expert ethee but the surples grenades tend to have llarge weld marks that where smmother out so it looks smother going around the grenade if you go on mil web in classifilds thers lods of the surples lemons and ball grenades on there for comparsion

 

[dano1917]

This one does appear smooth all the way around. I was convinced enough where I bid on it and got it. then I started having second thoughts with the RFX on it and all. It is a rough body (I'm the weirdo that likes em like that). The spoon on fuze is dated '65 though I realize not orig fuze...Dano

 

[paul the grenade]

Hi Dan. If you have a fuze for the M69 baseball gren try and put it in the lemon. If it fits its a fake , if it doesn't fit then its a good M30. it looks like a good on to me.
Cheers, Paul.

 

[dano1917]

Hi Dan. If you have a fuze for the M69 baseball gren try and put it in the lemon. If it fits its a fake , if it doesn't fit then its a good M30. it looks like a good on to me.
Cheers, Paul.

Great idea Paul. I just won it on gun-broker this morning so I don't have it yet and I think it is a beauty! Oh heck, even if it is fake it'll display ok. I also think it is real but as mentioned before was having second thooughts...Dano

 

[paul the grenade]

if you look closely at the top it is well machined and matches the fuze. the fake ones are often cut at an angle at the top and the fuze can look lop-sided.
Cheers, Paul.

 

[dano1917]

if you look closely at the top it is well machined and matches the fuze. the fake ones are often cut at an angle at the top and the fuze can look lop-sided.
Cheers, Paul.

Yes Paul I did see that. Also on the centre band there appears to be minute traces of the blue practice paint. I think I did okay as it was not a fortune...Dano

 

[dano1917]

Emailed back and forth with Justin (our resident US Lemon expert) and he assures me it is a genuine practice m30/61 lemon....Life is sweet....Dano

 

[GTR003121]

Dano, you got yourself a legit M30 there, or an M62 if you can locate a Jungle Clip for it. The castings on the real practice types are of significantly higher quality than those of the crap at all the surplus stores/sites. The M205A2 fuze is also correct for an M30 or M62.

 

[Grenademan2005]

I feel like a complete idiot even asking this, but does the lemon in the picture appear real or is it on of those surplus circuit specials. I am a fish out of water on these and any and all help greatly appreciated. Dano

Hahahaha, :tinysmile_tongue_t:. What a great start.

 

[dano1917]

Yessirree gentlemen, I am as happy as a fly eating s__t!.I will not alter/modify this lemon in any way. You by now know that I love reliccy stuff. Knowing that it is original is just saweeeeet! A good start to my "Vietnam corner" end of my collection. Did not cost a kings ransom and I should have it in hand sometime next week about the same time my m69 and m67 show up. Also have a line on a Vietnam smoke grenade (not one of the newer ones). I am still WW1 in the wool, but Vietnam will be my next collecting coup. Yahoooooooooooooo..............Dano

 

[Kilroy was Here]

M30 practice

Hey Dano, that's one of the real Richmond Foundry grenades. I've seen them with many different numbers cast in the body. I am not sure if the 55 means 1955, but maybe so. Here's a pic of one I sold about a a year and half ago on GB for just about what you just paid for yours. I guess they have gone up in price a little, or I sell too my stuff to cheap. I collect WW2 so did not want to keep this one. Probably should have though.

 

[dano1917]

Thanks for the pics/info Doc. These jewels are getting hard to find. I am staying with WW1 and adding a Vietnam section to collection. Those you showed are in real nice condition, and yes I think the price keeps going up and up. When I bid on it I was only "kinda sure" it was original. Happily I was able to confirm with the astute help of the BOCN membership that the body is original. The fuze (although not original to the grenade) is dated 1965. It may not look like much to many, but means everything to me. Your input as well as all the other input does not go unappreciated. As mentioned earlier i'll not modify/alter this grenade in any way. I am the "relic guy" Happy in Illinois.....Dano
P.S. I just love grenade bodies with stampings, and the deeply incussed stamp on this one is no exception....D

 

[vinnyw]

Looks good to me ,I have a few of them ,one of them is blue with the rdx,Im sure its real.I have a manual some where that go,s through the meaning of that.:tinysmile_hmm_t:
vinny

 

[Kilroy was Here]

Happily I was able to confirm with the astute help of the BOCN membership that the body is original. The fuze (although not original to the grenade) is dated 1965. It may not look like much to many, but means everything to me. Your input as well as all the other input does not go unappreciated. As mentioned earlier i'll not modify/alter this grenade in any way. I am the "relic guy" Happy in Illinois.....Dano
P.S. I just love grenade bodies with stampings, and the deeply incussed stamp on this one is no exception....D

Why do you think the fuze is not original to the grenade Dano? The fuze the one I used to have and showed is also dated 1965. They used these M30's all the time during the VN years.
I know what you mean what you said above Dano, I also have items that don't mean much to others, but they are some of my favorites and make ME happy. I also like the deep cast numbers/marks on these old RFX trainers too. These M30 bodies are very hefty and feel nice. They are good grenades for fondling on a cold winters evening

 

[dano1917]

Why do you think the fuze is not original to the grenade Dano? The fuze the one I used to have and showed is also dated 1965. They used these M30's all the time during the VN years.
I know what you mean what you said above Dano, I also have items that don't mean much to others, but they are some of my favorites and make ME happy. I also like the deep cast numbers/marks on these old RFX trainers too. These M30 bodies are very hefty and feel nice. They are good grenades for fondling on a cold winters evening

Steve, I based it merely on assumption. The fuze condition is much different than that of the body. I do realize that the fuze is "correct" to the body but assumed it was added on. Also may re-think on leaving body alone. I think when I get it I will put it to a BOCN membership vote on whether or not to at least sand and repaint. First I have to (fondle) it, appreciate it for a while, then who knows. One thing for sure, it'll never leave my collection. Steve I really appreciate the input you have put forth on this one. From reading your posts I can read between the lines and see that share a thirst for knowledge. You collect in a sweet catagory and I respect your love of the F1, one of my favorites also (WW1 for me). Hell the F1 in a short time will reach 100 years of production. Looks like my collection is going to end up a mixture of WWI and vietnam era grenades. I would love to collect within WWII but I am already spreading myself thin. I know I ask a lot of questions, guess it goes back to that thirst of knowledge thing. You have a great collection going and I enjoy seeing your pics and posts. With respect...Dan

 

[dano1917]

Though not in my possesion yet, I wanted to share some of the other pics of the Lemon I have coming.....Dano

 

[Kilroy was Here]

Steve, I based it merely on assumption. The fuze condition is much different than that of the body. I do realize that the fuze is "correct" to the body but assumed it was added on. Also may re-think on leaving body alone. I think when I get it I will put it to a BOCN membership vote on whether or not to at least sand and repaint. First I have to (fondle) it, appreciate it for a while, then who knows. One thing for sure, it'll never leave my collection. Steve I really appreciate the input you have put forth on this one. From reading your posts I can read between the lines and see that share a thirst for knowledge. You collect in a sweet catagory and I respect your love of the F1, one of my favorites also (WW1 for me). Hell the F1 in a short time will reach 100 years of production. Looks like my collection is going to end up a mixture of WWI and vietnam era grenades. I would love to collect within WWII but I am already spreading myself thin. I know I ask a lot of questions, guess it goes back to that thirst of knowledge thing. You have a great collection going and I enjoy seeing your pics and posts. With respect...Dan

Hey Dano, I see, I did not know what you meant. Yeah, the condition of fuze does not match the grenade body, so it might not be "original" to the grenade body, but it is the correct fuze for the body.

I would repaint the M30 if you asked me. BUT I would make sure to use the exact powder blue color, and also age the grenade with dirt and scratches and wear on the high points. You can make it completely aged and orig "looking" and no one except now the 10,000 people here on the forum who will know you are going to repaint it :tinysmile_fatgrin_t I would not repaint it, and leave the paint perfect like it was painted yesterday, it will not look right. At least in my opinion.

Thanks for the compliments Dano, but I am just a collector like the rest, I just happen to like Soviet WW2 grenades and F1's and other WW2 grenades. F1's are like the grandad of grenades. so basic and ugly, that they are pretty. I have about 30 of them now, and have been meaning to take good photos of all of them and the different markings and casting shapes. There all slightly different. I am going to take pics of the entire collection and make an album if I can figure out how to do it, ha!

 

[Kilroy was Here]

Though not in my possesion yet, I wanted to share some of the other pics of the Lemon I have coming.....Dano

That's a great condition Vietnam era fuze Dano, Nice one!!