Makers stamp I'd please

[havoc]

Makers stamp I'd please Pics added

Hi all,

Just got hold of an unusual round today. It's a 90mm manipulation ?? I'm gathering loading training. It has only one mark on the base. Looks like an 'M' with what looks like a 'A' at the bottom of the M joined to the point of the centre. Will try and upload a photo tomorrow of the round and mark. If any one can assist I'd be grateful.

cheers,

Clive.

 

[Bonnex]

Mecar perhaps. I will see if I have a photograph of something sporting their livery. Mecar are now part of the Chemring Group (see www.mecar.be). Herewith an image of a Drill Energa Grenade with their monogram:

 

[havoc]

Cheers mate, Looks like it could well be. Have uploaded a couple pics of it now. Be nice to know the weapon type if poss. Had a quick look about, poss a Cockerill 90mm, but for what set up? Poss Scorpion 90mm?

 

[Bonnex]

Mecar certainly produce Cockerill stuff.

 

[EOD]

This is definately the Mecar logo.

 

[havoc]

This is definately the Mecar logo.

Cheers for the I'd on the maker. Anyone any idea on what gun/vehicle it may be for?

 

[Darrol]

Can you see the base of the projectile ? . .through the primer hole?.Darrol.

 

[havoc]

Can you see the base of the projectile ? . .through the primer hole?.Darrol.

Hi Darrol,
I will try and get it out. Its clearly some form of practice round as the percussion cap appears to be plastic. It only weighs approx 8 kilos. There are no markings on the base of the case apart from just the Mecar stamp. The only other markings visiable are whats on the projectile: 90mm Manipulation.
Cheers,
Clive.

 

[Darrol]

Hi.it could well be a drill round.i have a practice 90 mm cockerill round and its blue with tail fins .there should be a pic on the thread . .guess what it is .if yours is a drill round it may not come apart.Darrol.

 

[Yodamaster]

If I'm not wrong, you have a 90 mm CATI (Canon Anti-Tank d'Infanterie), made by Cockerill in the years 50-60, take over by MECAR when Cockerill was out of action !​

Here a link where you can see the "tank" !
http://en.valka.cz/viewtopic.php/t/11339

and the munition
http://www.flickr.com/photos/9182322@N05/2780339836/



Yoda

 

[EOD]

Oh, I thought that was clear but "Manipulier" in Switzerland means drill/dummy.

 

[orpheus72]

Hi.it could well be a drill round.i have a practice 90 mm cockerill round and its blue with tail fins .there should be a pic on the thread . .guess what it is .if yours is a drill round it may not come apart.Darrol.

It is a DRILL round as it's marked MANIPULATION (French manipuler = handling, drill ).

I've attached a picture of the Cockeril round and it's projectile (Belgian used NR246A1 Target Practice version)

 

[EOD]

It is a DRILL round as it's marked MANIPULATION (French manipuler = handling, drill ).

Manipulier is Swiss German.