No 27 Fuze

[Chris]

Anybody has info on the No 27 Fuze for the 4 inch Trench Mortar ?

Regards Chris

 

[MINENAZ16]

Hi Chris,
No diagram. I only know it's a time fuze, converted No 65A with percussion device removed for trench mortar.
Found in France an Belgium.

 

[Snufkin]

A drawing, and description from relevant List of Changes paragraph

 

[lcn]

Hi
Only have these few photos whose origin I do not know.
Nothing on the 4 inch mortar just a picture on a 2 inch toffe
jp

 

[MINENAZ16]

Hi
Only have these few photos whose origin I do not know.
Nothing on the 4 inch mortar just a picture on a 2 inch toffe
jp

Hi Icn, the fuze you show is from my collection.

Herewith on 4in :

 

[Chris]

Thanks a lot gentlemen for the info

chris

 

[sgdbdr]

A drawing, and description from relevant List of Changes paragraph

Do you know the title of the book this came from ?

 

[Rrickoshae]

This is the appropriate page from Dave Ibbetson’s excellent book ‘British Artillery Ammunition, vol. 4, Fuzes’

 

[Snufkin]

Do you know the title of the book this came from ?

The text is from "List of Changes in War Matériel and of Patterns of Military Stores which have been approved and sealed, with instructions relating thereto."

 

[Depotman]

Hi
Only have these few photos whose origin I do not know.
Nothing on the 4 inch mortar just a picture on a 2 inch toffe
jp

No.27-01.jpg also shows (at the bottom of the picture) a No.123 fuze - I still haven't found a drawing of this fuze, even though I have one in my collection and photos of it in my book. In addition there is some data on the No.123 in a "Confidential" List of Change - §18035 .

 

[doctor]

 

[lcn]

No.27-01.jpg also shows (at the bottom of the picture) a No.123 fuze - I still haven't found a drawing of this fuze, even though I have one in my collection and photos of it in my book. In addition there is some data on the No.123 in a "Confidential" List of Change - §18035 .

Hi Depotman
I am attaching the diagrams of the Vickers fuze fixed time (export) found in a Russian encyclopedia from "
V. I.Rdultovsky "Historical review of development time-fuzes and fuzes from the beginning of their use until the end of World War 1914-1918 (1940)"
as well as two extracts
cdlt
Jean Paul

 

[Depotman]

Hi Depotman
I am attaching the diagrams of the Vickers fuze fixed time (export) found in a Russian encyclopedia from "
V. I.Rdultovsky "Historical review of development time-fuzes and fuzes from the beginning of their use until the end of World War 1914-1918 (1940)"
as well as two extracts
cdlt
Jean Paul

Hello Jean Paul, Thank-you very much for showing a drawing of what I am sure is a British No. 123 fuze - the only one I have ever seen! Can I have your permission to use the drawing in various articles I may write for publication on the Ordnance Society's Journal or Newsletter?
Best wishes,
Trevor

 

[MINENAZ16]

Hello Jean Paul, Thank-you very much for showing a drawing of what I am sure is a British No. 123 fuze - the only one I have ever seen! Can I have your permission to use the drawing in various articles I may write for publication on the Ordnance Society's Journal or Newsletter?
Best wishes,
Trevor

I'm a little disturbed because I know the long fuze on the diagram as "Vickers delay fuze" (for 1.57" mortar) and the No 123 as a modified No 121 with a burster (also for 1.57in)
Need help to clarify.

Which model of fuze is this?

Can some one ID this fuze please. Cheers Pete

www.bocn.co.uk

 

[MINENAZ16]

No.122 fuze photo

Good morning, does anyone have a photo of a No.122 fuze? From its description it would appear to be very similar to a No.121. Many thanks, Dave

www.bocn.co.uk

 

[Snufkin]

Herewith the description of Fuze No.123 from List of Changes:

 

[MINENAZ16]

Herewith the description of Fuze No.123 from List of Changes:

Thank you Snufkin. Very interesting document.
So, If I understand this document, the fuze (with 2 vertical powder channels) is designated No 123.

 

[Snufkin]

So, If I understand this document, the fuze (with 2 vertical powder channels) is designated No 123.

Yes - according to LoC the No.123 with gaine was deployed with the 1.57-inch Trench Howitzer bombs, 18-lb MkI and 33lb MkI.

The No.122 with gaine was deployed with the 18-lb MkII and 33-lb MkII. The No.122 for the Vickers TH bombs had a similar form to the No.121 shell fuze, both having 58 ratchet teeth on the upper outer edge of the bottom time ring to aid setting.