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No. 36M Mk I grenade with teargas adapter

Antoon

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Has someone more information about this No 36M MkI handgrenade with a adapter that should have teargas in it?

Is this SOE material?

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Strange device. You would think that the tear gas part would ignight with enough time to dispense the gas before the grenade exploded. Would seem a bit pointless for the whole lot to explode after 4 or 7 seconds unless there was some form of delay on the grenade part.
 
I believe the 'adapter' is a flash charge for a Bomb, ML, Practice, 2-in Mortar.

it gives an indication of the strike of the Practice bomb. I think it was a Canadian only device and screws on in place of the cap. It requires a safety pin to be pulled before firing so it reinforces the drill of removing safety caps and pins although not exactly as per the HE bomb.
 
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Has someone more information about this No 36M MkI handgrenade with a adapter that should have teargas in it?

Is this SOE material?

Antoon,
it is interesting that you should ask if this is SOE material. As far as I am aware it was not used by the SOE ( or SF ) but, apart from the over generous marking, it would not be out of place in a largely undocumented list of stores developed by SOE's technical division for deception purposes. People will be aware of the dummy parachutist and perhaps the machine gun simulator but there were a dozen or so more devices produced in the UK or India to create 'battle noises' for operational ( rather than training) use. The No 90 Grenade is an example of a battle noise simulator devised in India by the Special Duties Section (supported by the equivalent of Station XII in India).
 
This 2" adaptor would screw to the end of a 2" practice round in the threaded hole where the cap stews to? I assume the thread on the 2" practice mortar cap is the same size as the mills base plug center screw that would fit a discarger plate or rod.
 
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Two more photos of the same items shown in post #1.
 

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So maybe the composition of the No 36M Mk I grenade and the Nose Attachment 2 inch Mortar bomb is not correct. I think this composition has never exist in real.

Greetings - Antoon
 
antoon I agree,how could the 2in bomb fit down the barrel with a 36 grenade stuck to the end of it?
 
So maybe the composition of the No 36M Mk I grenade and the Nose Attachment 2 inch Mortar bomb is not correct. I think this composition has never exist in real.

Greetings - Antoon

Yes, I was going to say I couldn't see the point of this combination. Is it just a coincidence that these two things fit together?

John
 
So easy to go down the SOE fantasy route and make something up that never happened.
 
So does anyone have an internal drawing of the attachment?

Also looking at the container it states it is filled with T.W.H./C, is that a smoke/flash compound? or is that the filling company?

Joe
 
T.W.H./C - T.W. Hand Fireworks Co. Ltd., Cooksville, Ontatio, Canada.

TimG
 
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I do not have a drawing, but I do know how it functions. Only the safety pin (which actually is a safety strip much like the one found on Switch No.10) has to be removed before firing. The black cap should not be removed as it contains a fixed firing pin. The firing pin is separated, by the safety strip, from a shortened 12 gauge blank cartridge loaded with black powder. When the safety pin is pulled the firing pin rests upon the 12 gauge primer, and on impact ignites the blank cartridges that in turn ignites the flash/smoke compounds.
 
The photos in posts #1 and #7 imply that the device is screwed into the central hole on the Mills base plug but the photos in post #17 show no such attachment device. Anders, was there a some attachment screw?

John
 
I was also wondering does this have an official designation? Looking at the packaging, it doesn't seem to.

Joe
 
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