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Original M43 Stick Grenade Threaded Cap?

peregrinvs

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I have just acquired this M43 stick grenade handle with threaded end cap. It was sold as a repro and I paid a repro price for it. However, I was wondering if there was any possibility that the threaded end cap might be original? As you can see, it has screwed quite happily into the original M43 head that I am currently restoring. No big deal if it isn’t, but I would be interested in some opinions.
 

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Threading tin is quite difficult, been trying to figure this out for years, wanted to make up some replica smoke that fitted the 247 fuze which has a rounded large thread, not sure how its done on thin tin, bit similar to bottle top threads. Not sure if you form the shape of the diameter and height as a blank cap and put it through a forming die. The only way your grenade was most probably threaded was using a solid billet that was threaded to start using a rounded thread cutter ground to shape and the thin end of the unthreaded part hollowed and skimmed to tin thickness to give the impression of a tin formed pressing.
 
I tried googling the ‘ftd 44’ marking and found a couple of references:

https://www.bergflak.com/m24makers.html

https://www.warrelics.eu/forum/fiel...rd-reich/these-wooden-handle-original-727509/

Which suggests my handle is a fake made to deceive rather than an honest repro. I also posted the pics on a FB group and someone commented “The stick is a known copy. Best on the market”.

Given how difficult it must be to accurately copy the threaded cap (as alluded to by BMG50 above), somebody somewhere has gone to a lot of trouble to make it. Presumably they considered it financially worth their while.
 
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