Pair of German FLAK40's

[RichardB]

Pair of German 12,8cm FLAK40's

I haven't posted in a while due to a few "techincal" difficulties.....and for the same reason haven't acquired much either.

I did however pick up a second 12,8cm Flak40 case recently to pair up with my spare 12,8cm Pzgr43. As they are pretty impressive rounds, I thought they'd be worth a show.

First picture shows the new case and projectile
Second picture shows both 12,8cm Flak40's with Pzgr's and for scale, a German 7,5cm Kwk40 with Pzgr39 as used in the Panzer IV for example.

Of course if anyone has a Pak44 Case, 165x869, Id be happy to swap an entire round (worth the ask!!)

If anyone else has any 12,8cm rounds please post....Im sure we'd all love to see.

Rich

 

[Chris 42 RQ]

Impressive !

Hi Richard thanks for sharing those pictures, as you say they are "quite impressive" to say the least !

The poor little KWK40 is dwarfed by the 12.8 rounds.


Chris :tinysmile_shy_t:

 

[waffenamt]

Hi Richard,
Great to see you back old chap!
Yes,those new rounds you have look whoppers!,thanks for showing them.:tinysmile_grin_t:

cheers

waff

 

[RichardB]

So can anyone absolutely confirm which projectile were used with which 12,8cm cases

ie is the FLAK40 case and Pzgr43 projectile actually a valid round? ...I must admit, Im not certain it is.

Rich

 

[waffenamt]

Now i thought that Stielgranate or Quatermass would be on this one Rich?

I will ask Mick for you to see if he has any info?

waff

 

[StielGr]

Hi Rich
I was waiting to see if anyone else came up with the answer but I see Waff has forced my hand :tinysmile_grin_t:.

Problem is I don't have definitive documental evidence but the Flak 40 used both the 12.8cm Pzgr and the Pzgr43.

Why has one of the projectiles got a white tip?

PC

 

[Quatermass]

According to Ian V. Hogg in German Artillery of World War Two the 12.8cm Flak 40 used the '12.8cm Pzgr Patr Flak 40', This was a capped round rather than CBC.

I think your 12.8cm Pzgr 43 projectiles were only used with the 12.8cm K44/Pak44/KwK44.

StielGr, what evidence do you have for the Pzgr 43 being used with the 12.8cm Flak 40?

Quatermass.

 

[waffenamt]

Nice one boys,i knew you wouldnt let me down!

Thank you.:tinysmile_grin_t:

best

waff

 

[Falcon]

Is that the case that was for sale at Bisley a few weeks ago? It looks familiar.

 

[RichardB]

Hi Chaps,
No, the case wasn't purchased at Bisley, it was SA, although I guess that doesnt mean it wasnt at Bisley. Its far from perfect, but also far from common, so I figured id pick it up.

As for the Pzgr43, Im fairly certain I've read somewhere that its a valid round, but have no evidence whatsoever....so could just be delusion talking.

I do know the Flak40 definitely used an APC round ie w/o the BC, but not so certain about the APCBC.

Was definitely used with the PAK44 as Q said.....anyone else have any info?

Rich

 

[SG500]

Hi yes the case was for sale at Bisley, I had a good look at it myself. Keith P had it for sale on his stall and then put it on SA when it didn't sell.
Dave.

 

[SG500]

Here's a couple of pictures of the correct projectile - I've posted these before in the sectioned part of the forum.
Dave.