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People like this piss me off

ordman said:
Check this out
http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=213873758
This crap has got to stop
People like this should be reported
Nice tape job on the M83
ALS has a BLUE smoker in current inventory
I sent him a full description of the M83 FYI
and told him to be truthfull on what he's selling jackass
ordman Out
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(Not my auction) Not sure what you are seeing that is not as described that pisses you off, why should the seller be reported, did I miss something? The smoke grenades shown in the auction photos are US M83's with a military production lot number (Pine Bluff Arsenal April 1999). The tape was most likely applied by an end user, to hold the spoon(s) in place as an added safety measure against accidental discharge.
 
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He's describing the grenade as a "BLUE SMOKE GRENADE"
he M83 is a practice smoke grenade giving off white smoke

TM 43-0001-29 ARMY AMMUNITION SHEETS FOR GRENADES

Type Classification:
Std. LCC-A, AMCTC 3408
Use:
The TA Practice Smoke Hand Grenade, M83 is a burning type grenade used to generate white smoke for screening activities of small units. It is also used for ground-to-air signaling.
Description:
The grenade body is a cylinder of thin sheet metal. It is filled with 'TA smoke mixture topped with a starter slug directly under the fuze opening. The duration of smoke screen or signal is 25 to 70 seconds, average burn-time.
Hand grenade fuze M201A1 is a pyrotechnic delay- igniting fuze. The body contains a primer, first-fire misture, pyrotechnic delay column, and starter slug. Assembled to the body are a striker, striker spring, safety lever and safety pin with pull ring. The split end of the safety pin has an angular spread.
Safety clips are not required with these grenades.
Tabulated Data:
Grenade (with fuze):
Model(s)----------------------- M83
Body---------------------------- Sheet metal
Weight-------------------------- 16 oz

Length------------------------- 5.7 in.
Diameter---------------------- 2.5 in.
Color---------------------------- Forest green with light green mark- ings, a blue band, and a white top.
Packing------------------------ 1 per container; 16
per packing box
Filler:
Type---------------------------- Terephthalic Acid
(TA)
Weight-------------------------- 11 oz
Fuze:
Model(s) ---------------- ------ M201A1
Type---------------------------- Pyrotechnic delay-

igniting
Primer-------------------------- M39A1
Ignition mixture-------------- Iron oxide, tita-

nium, zirconium
Delay time--------------------- 0.7-2 sec
Weight-------------------------- 1.5 oz
Length-------------------------- 3.9 in.
Color (safety lever)--------- Gray or olive drab

w/black markings
Packing------------------------ Not separately
issued
Safety device---------------- Pull ring and safety
pin
Federal Supply Code:
NSN------------------------------- 1330-01-380-0284
DODAC--------------------------- 1330-G982

All I'm making light of is the seller is mirepresenting what he's selling
 
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Jolly Green said:
I saw his desc. as blue smoke and just wrote it off as someone who doen't know what he's selling.
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Ah master, I now see the (blue color wording) in the sellers auction description :tinysmile_hmm_t:. I am sure that you are correct that the seller just assumed blue smoke from the blue band and made a mistake. Hopefully the seller won't be to insulted in the error and change the auction description accordingly

From the OP and mention of ALS and tape being applied, I thought the problem was that these were being described as military production or faked.
 
Gentleman
Pardon my ranting on this one
It was just one of those days
To much winter and all
I guess I'll have to double up on the
Happy pills
I'll give the guy a break and assume
He not know what he doing
 
Same here.
I've even used the tee shirt to clean up the mess.
It's good to blow off steam like that. No need to apologize. Just let er rip when ya need to. It's fun.
 
There are plenty of other auctions with mis-represented items to get pissed off about believe me. No harm done here and we can all relate to your opinion and reaction.

Lots of scumbags out there, and just as many that are ignorant. Even though it's not really the case here, it's a great thing when you can take one look at something and know it's wrong. It's a talent that some people just don't posess. How's that M26 John, like my Avatar?? ;)
 
Hey Justin
That M26 is in my estate
I'm willing it to my son LOL
I guess you'll have to wait and deal with him LOL
I'm still looking for a good M26 body
Please send warm weather eastward
Seasonal light deprovation has taken it's toll on me
I'm getting bitchy over a smoke grenade
Gees next thing you know I'll go off on a 105 or something
 
Lord knows, I have done it a few times here to. I agree with John (Jolly Green) on this one. Like John has stated. It is fun just to get it out of your system!

We should also, have some people on this great forum that can dedicate some of their time to help out guys on this forum who are having bad days or bad months. You know provide an ear for that person. I would definately think it would draw friends here even closer and so with new people here too.

Any guys out there think we should have something like that here as an option?:tinysmile_hmm_t:
 
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