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S Mine question.

BMG50

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I thought I would give ChatGPT a go at a couple of questions to answer rather than google and get fluffy bunny rabbit replys.
Questioning ChatGPT about the delay on a S mine after setting it of by stepping on the igniter there should be a 4.5 or 4 second delay so the victim who set it off is not standing on the mine when it bounds in the air as a aerial killer. Reading up about test and evaluation reports to best evade the blast of the mine thats if you hear the pop of the igniter under battle conditions by shouting 'S Mine down" and laying flat on the ground feet facing towards the mine, even so your chances were very slim., ChatGPT said there was no delay and if so would be fraction of a second and wouldn't have 4 seconds which such reports and manuals state plus its logical for the mine to freely bound as holding the mine in the ground by body weigh would not be as deadly as if you let it jumping the air to full killing effect. I assume modern bounding mines have a delay or instantly bound as soon as the igniter is fired..
ChatGPT also said that the explosive charge was about 180g of TNT more than a Schu mine then later said it was 360g of explosive, it cant make its mind up. I am sure there is a delay in a bounding mine old or modern, am I wrong.
 
i posted this before but here it is again.i would think you would have a good chance of avoiding serious injury if you could get flat on the ground and your webbing backpack would offer some good protection as well
 

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For both the S-Mine 35 and S-Mine 44, the German 1944 manual 'H.Dv.220-4b Ausbildungsvorschrift für die Pioniere - Teil 4b - Minen und Zünder' states that they both contain ≈280 g of explosive material, and both have an ≈4.5 second delay once the fuze is triggered.

However, whilst the S-Mine 35 rises to a height of 0.7-1.5 m (≈2.3-4.9 ft), the S-Mine 44 is stated to only rise to a height of 75-80 cm (≈2.45-2.62 ft). I would say the chances of survival, or at least not being hit by a high velocity fragment from the S-Mine 44, is minimal even if you lie flat on the ground.

The same manual states the Schützenmine 42 (Schü.Mi.42), aka the Schu mine, contains ≈200 g of explosive.

As to the ChatGPT, other large language models (LLMs), or similar software that is errously referrred to as AI, it's really poop in poop out. The software isn't intelligent, it's just dumb software trained on enormous data sets. Unfortunately, or more rightly fortunately at the moment, it seems to have no true reasoning capabilties, nor it seems the ability to cope with errors in the source data.
 
Seeing as I know my subject on S mines I knew they came out with inaccurate crap. AI still has a long way to go, seen many a mistake, especially when I have all the test and evaluation reports from mid war plus actual accounts of damage and incidences of the after effects of setting one off
i posted this before but here it is again.i would think you would have a good chance of avoiding serious injury if you could get flat on the ground and your webbing backpack would offer some good protection as well
Thats if you could hear the pop in the heat of battle with all the other noise sounding off. The S mine not only had a 360 degree burst but shed its shrapnel top and bottom as the top plate made of cast iron with its 3 det plugs 1 filler plug and top nut and igniter added to the shrapnel blast as well as the bottom plate made of the same material so laying down most probably saved your life because of less shrapnel hitting you but you still caught some of the blast, it reduced your chances of being killed.
It was said that the functioning life for the S mine to work textbook style was about 3 months in the ground when it started to preform erratically depending on climate conditions. In some cases during the trials jumped 20 feet without exploding.
 
By the way Is there anyone who sells parts for the S mine as I am after a inner round tin container that holds the explosive charge in and a early top plate and early base that had a lead round sheet that held the propellent charge in place held in place with screws.
 
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