Schermuly Training Grenade.

[Bullet Mick]

New to the collection a Schermuly Training Grenade. Im looking for any pics or diagrams of the charge used. Also were they once use or could they be reloaded and used again. Cheers Mick.

 

[spotter]

Theres some info in this thread BM http://www.bocn.co.uk/vbforum/threads/4481-Schermuly-Training-Grenade?highlight=schermuly

 

[inertordnance]

Mick,

Here is the U.S. Version manufactured by Kilgore, I believe that the charge design was similar with the Schermuly.

The US Version was not designed to be reloadable and I do not believe that the Schermuly Manufactured Version was either.

Stay safe,

Frank

 

[exat808]

Still made in the UK by Chemring Defence ( who are the successors to Schermuly, Pains Wessex, Haley and Weller etc).

Page from their current catalogue -

 

[Bonnex]

The earliest record I can find of this grenade is 1980 when it was marketed by Schermuly as a 'Stun' grenade (Delay 1.5 to 2 seconds, sound 200 to 250 dB at 1 metre, flash 1.5 to 2 million candela). In 1981 it is marketed as a Training Grenade (Delay 1.5 to 2 seconds, sound 170 dB at 1 metre, flash 1 million candela).

In 1996 it was advertised as a Stun Grenade (Delay 2 seconds minimum, sound greater than 175dB at 1 metre, flash greater than 1.75 million candela).

I believe the Schermuly basic design was improved by the design team at Haley and Weller when they amalgamated.

 

[Bullet Mick]

Bonnex the lever on mine is marked MTY-4-80 could this be the date of manufacture April 1980 or am i barking up the wrong tree with that. Cheers Mick.

 

[Bonnex]

Seems a very reasonable tree to me although the 4 could be a lot number rather than a month identifier. Personally I'd go with 'month' until proven otherwise.

 

[V40]

Were these the same grenades used by the "22"nd "Pagoda SAS during the rescue at the Iranian embassy

 

[Bonnex]

Were these the same grenades used by the "22"nd "Pagoda SAS during the rescue at the Iranian embassy

No. They were rubber bodied job.