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Schtzenmine 400gram
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Probably it will help you - http://www.saper.etel.ru/mines-2/shu-mine-400.html Pictures in better quality
Probably it will help you - http://www.saper.etel.ru/mines-2/shu-mine-400.html Pictures in better quality
Thanks! That answers some of my questions and raise so new one's!
Matt.
Hello
Here are some pictures
Here are some pictures
No, sorry i don't have picture of the inside of the box.
About mines on wood, I have some pictures of Schumine 42 Mod.
About mines on wood, I have some pictures of Schumine 42 Mod.
THANK YOU!!!! THANK YOU!!!!
THANK YOU!!!!
The one Ive been work is a little off. Can you get abetter photo of the the front?
Thank YOU
Matt.
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Matt have you finished you Schu 400grm?
I have been studying this mine for quite while but there seems to be very little info on this mine and conflicting sizes in the manuals and other info especially with the width. It seems when calculating the width of the charges for the bottom tray its as almost as big as the top lid making the tray and lid wall thickness micro thin and totally out from the thickness of the pictures Tarbelin51 has kindly posted. The way the wood is set out also differs in the manuals to the original photoed example of Tarberlins post pictures.
It would also be interesting to find out a bit of history on this piece ie where it was used, France Italy or Russia for example and if it was a commonly employed piece.
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Here you can find a good link to the lexpev site.
http://www.lexpev.nl/minesandcharges/europe/germany/schuetzenmine400gr.html
Yoda
http://www.lexpev.nl/minesandcharges/europe/germany/schuetzenmine400gr.html
Yoda
Hi Matt Very good copy but the back charge is meant to sit upright and both charges sit up on a raised bit of wood. The igniter should rest inside a wooden support block situated in front of the charges. God knows how the igniter is inserted into the support block if it is nailed or glued in, as looking at the drawings, it doesn't leave much room to get the igniter in at an angle, making it more or less impossible. I would think this block would not be glued or nailed.
I meant to place the 200grm charge upright I forgot.(its been a while since I had it out) I had the wooden support block with a zz42 in it. But a living history event I had it set it up. It was hard to show the pubic how it function. I'm planing on cutting the block in half. Like i said its been a while since I had it out .
I don't think the support block was glued or nailed. I think the zz42 kept the the support block in place when you attach it to the 200grm charge.
Matt.
The Engineer Living Historical Group
103rd Engineer Combat Battalion
291st Engineer Combat Battalion
I don't think the support block was glued or nailed. I think the zz42 kept the the support block in place when you attach it to the 200grm charge.
Matt.
The Engineer Living Historical Group
103rd Engineer Combat Battalion
291st Engineer Combat Battalion
I agree that the support block was not glued or nailed in. I have made a 400 gram mine based on Tarberlin51 photo's, the only existing pictures of an original i have ever seen. I noticed that the top of the back lid is closed off, so this would account for the overhang of the top lid at the back of the mine, as it would not open. but the length of the top lid would not be 220mm but more like 250mm as the overhang works out about 35mm. If it were open ended like the Schumine42 the length would be OK at 220mm. I do wonder if there were two versions, one for the Russian front the other for French defences. The longer mine being more water and dirt proof because of the enclosed back.
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