Show your 6 PR Rounds (WW1 & WW2)

[RichardB]

Hi All,
I started a thread a long time ago called "Show your 17 PR rounds" which was quite a well responded to thread,...now its been a while and its still not a particularly high intellect topic starter, but I hope everyone will participate.....they are fabulous rounds.

Here are my favourites.... most repainted at some point, but still great rounds...from left to right

6 PR Proof - 1942 (Case) 1951 (Projectile)
6 PR APDS - 1943 (Case) 10.1944 (Projectile)
6 PR APDS - 1942 (Case) 7.1944 (Projectile)
6 PR AP - 1942 (Case) 1941 (Projectile)
6 PR HE - 1943 (Case) 7.1943 (Projectile)
6 PR APCBC - 1941 (Case)
6 PR APCBC - 1945 (Case) 5.1943 (Projectile)



Cheers
Rich

 

[dano1917]

awesome

Great 6 pdr rounds Richard. A fine collection. Thanks so much for sharing....................Dano

 

[HAZORD]

Very nice rounds Rich! I would love to find an APDS onthis side of the pond. Here is what I have.

 

[Chris 42 RQ]

Wow, nice items

Lovely items gentlemen, keep em coming !

 

[pzgr40]

Cutaway models of six shells for the WW2 Brittish 6 Pdr7cwt anti tank gun. It was put in service in 1941 to replace the (40mm) 2Pdr anti tank gun that was becomming obsolete rapidly. The gun and it's ammunition were called after the weight of the projectile; 6Lb (2,7 kg). Shell Were available in the following types of nose hardened solid steel shots: AP-T, APC-T, APCBC-T ( Armour Piercing Capped Ballistic Capped-Tracer).
As the AP shells had the habit of shattering to pieces upon impact, quite soon the APC was taken into service. It had a so called piercing Cap that devides the force of the impact upon the target over the entire nose, instead of just the tip of the nose, preventing it from breaking into pieces. It also prevented the shell from bouncing of at lower impact angles.
The APCBC had a Ballistic cap mounted, giving it greater speed and improved penetration over longer distance.
Speed and penetration of the solid shots at a steel plate @30 degrees at 1000 yards; AP: 821m/s (2693 ft/s) 74mm. APC 821m/s (2692ft/s) 80mm. APCBC 900m/s, 88mm.
Other types available were the HE-T (High Explosive -Tracer), it had a Vo. of 823m/s (2700ft/s). It was normally fuzed with the Fuze Percussion D.A. No.244, a brass impact fuze with a centrifugal slider as a safety. On impact the plate, holding the firing pin is driven down into the firing cap (red). The flame travels down the blue channel and arond the channel, igniting the black powder to enshure a big flame. The (green) flame detonator is ignited by the flame, igniting the detonator in the slider (purple) that has swung in line after firing the projectile. The booster (yellow part in lower fuze) is now ignited, exploding the shell. Two types of HE are available, with a long and a short steel body
Last type available is the APDS-T (Armour piercing Discarding Sabot-Tracer). It has a Vo. of 1234m/s (4050 ft/sec) and could pierce a 146 mm thick steel plate @30 degr at 1000 yards.

Further info at:
http://www.quarry.nildram.co.uk/Molins.htm
Regards DJH

 

[dano1917]

WWI 6pdr headstamp

Well, here is my 2 bits worth. WWI dated 6pdr casing is all I have...Dano

 

[Weasel]

Hi Pzgr40, fantastic sectioned rounds, the APDS looks really great. Keep them comming.
Best regards Weasel.

 

[SG500]

Very nice rounds Rich! I would love to find an APDS onthis side of the pond. Here is what I have.

Nice rounds John, I've just spotted something there that is very close to the top of my wants list REALLY NICE SQUEEZEBORE PROJECTILE. Are these any stampings on it?
Dave.

 

[SG500]

6 pounder davies gun rounds

Shown next to a standard 6pr7cwt apds for scale.

 

[SG500]

6 pounder 6cwt

Here's a few 6pr6cwt rounds, a couple of stadard HE ones and the littlejohn version.

 

[SG500]

6pr 7cwt plastic banded projectile

This is the experimental plastic banded version.

 

[SG500]

American 57mm HE with sectioned fuze

Never seen another one like this, any further information would be of interest.
Great thread Rich, its interesting to see what's out there.
Has anyone got an example of the 6pr 7cwt littlejohn I wonder?? Or even the 6pr 6cwt APC or APCBC?
Dave.

 

[HarryG]

Here are some of mine they are
Photo 1
AP - T MK3T
US DRILL M22
APDS-T Mk1BT
PRAC AP-T Mk IV T
Photo 2

HE - T Mk111T
BLANK MK1
APC-T MK2T
US APCBC-T M86
Photo 3
US TP - T M76
DRILL MK1
PRAC.FH MK11T
APCBC-T MKXVT
Photo 4
APCR-T MK2T
US APCBC-T M86
US AP - T M70
HE - T Mk111T
Photo 5
APFSDS-T Exp
US AP-HC ( APCNR )
APCBC-T MKXVT

 

[Chris 42 RQ]

Cut down or special ?

HarryG in your second picture you have a cut down case, is it just cut down or specifically made that length for a purpose ?

Lovely rounds too Harry, thanks for sharing them with us.

 

[SG500]

HarryG in your second picture you have a cut down case, is it just cut down or specifically made that length for a purpose ?

Lovely rounds too Harry, thanks for sharing them with us.

My guess would be a blank Chris, lets see what Harry says though.
Dave.

 

[HAZORD]

Dave,

Nice Davis Gun stuff!

 

[RichardB]

Hazord, SG500, PZGR40, HarryG and even Dano! - Amazing rounds, real pleasure to see whats out there.... Obviously I should have put 6PR and 57mm in the title..my mistake.

Now, can I be really cheeky and ask that, if you get a chance, you edit your posts to put descriptions of each round. There are certainly a couple there there I don't know or have seen before, and other members who don't know would certainly benefit.
It my not be the most engaging thread for the brain, but the eyes certainly love it..

Come on everyone, lets see some more. I know there are other 6 PR and 57mm rounds out there.

Rich

 

[Andysarmoury]

This is my only case can you tell by the case what projectile it used and what sort of value are these case's.
great collection guys.
cheers
Andy

 

[pzgr40]

Hi Rich , I added text.
Regards , DJH

 

[SG500]

This is my only case can you tell by the case what projectile it used and what sort of value are these case's.
great collection guys.
cheers
Andy

Andy see posts 1 and 13 above, they're the type of projectile used in your case.
Value of a 6pr7cwt case is up to 20 unless its got crimp marks at the very top of the case showing its for the APDS, then it would be worth more.
Dave.