three 45mm aphe projectiles

[earni74]

here are three Russian 45mm projectiles,the two unfired ones have dummy base fuzes, both look like they should have ballistic caps, the short one has a (3) stamped on the band and (44) on the projectile, the larger unfired one has no stamps visible.

can anyone shed more light on these two unfired projectiles, thanks

 

[Nabob]

Hi, I have no definitive answer for You just some things that came to my mind.
The tracer elements look like a German style.
The base plugs look 5104-ish.
Also the number 3 would have a flat top part. In russian azbuka this would be a letter Z.

Bob