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Turkish 75mm projectile

Burney Davis

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I've recently acquired this 75mm Turkish projectile and fuze. It measures 153mm tall excluding the fuze. The low position of the driving band indicates this is probably for a mountain gun,

My questions are:

Is this a Krupp designed and made shell (export) or perhaps Turkish made?
Can anyone offer an explanation of the base markings? A couple of the figures look Turkish.
What case would this have fitted.

TIA
 

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It would appear that Turkey wasn't able to produce any Artillery munitions. Go to this;

Weaponry - Turkey in the First World War​

turkeyswar.com › Army
May 30, 2026 · Zeytinburnu Munitions Plant in Istanbul could produce small quantities of rifle ammunition, : the Turkish 1914 model spherical grenade.
Thanks for that, but other information I have seen contradicts that as below:

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1. The Ottoman Army had two different mountain guns before WW1 - the 7.5cm Krupp M1892 (no recoil absorption) and the 7.5cm Krupp M04. The first image looks like the older gun and the AWM image is a battery of M04s. There were a fair number (450) of the M1892 mountain guns built in the Imperial Arsenal in Istanbul.

2. 9cm was the nominal calibre - it was 8.7cm. The Ottoman Army's standard field gun before the Krupp M03s was the 8.7(9)cm Krupp M80. Not only did they import them (790) but also built them under licence (130).

The numbers and types seem to have been derived from Turkish publications and Krupp's export book. "

Obviously further research needed.
 
It states 7,5 cm Mountain gun (Ottoman text on the fuze). In my Krupp article I needed to dive into translation of Ottoman text and I am still finding new stuff, this one is by now "read-able" for me.
 
Hi all
If you're planning a holiday in Turkey, stop by... :)
Most government documents, procurement contracts (including contracts with the Krupp company), and official correspondence of the Ministry of War are held by the State Archives of the Republic of Turkey.
Main Catalog and Search: The official *Devlet Arşivleri* https://katalog.devletarsivleri.gov.tr/catalog
is used to search for documents in digital format. Note: The system requires free registration. While foreign researchers without a Turkish ID card (e-Devlet) can search the online catalog for document abstracts (descriptions), the full scans of the historical records themselves are often—due to licensing restrictions—accessible only via computer terminals located directly in the archive's reading room in Istanbul (Kağıthane district).
In the archives, you must search for Ministry of War materials under the Ottoman collection designation HR.NZAT. (Harbiye Nezareti ...) or under the collection of the Sultan's military office. The documents are written in Ottoman Turkish (using the Arabic script), so knowledge of the language or of paleography is required to read them.
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ATASE Military Archive (Military History and Strategic Studies)If you are specifically looking for tactical manuals, artillery training handbooks, and operational orders, these are housed in the specialized Military Archive of the Turkish General Staff (ATASE) in Ankara. https://www.ermenisorunu.gen.tr/en/archives-of-the-turkish-general-staff-atase
: Information regarding access applications and the structure of the collection can be found on the ATASE Archive website. For security reasons, this archive is subject to stricter security measures, and access for foreign researchers requires formal approval via the Turkish Embassy.
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Alternative online option: Atatürk Library (Atatürk Kitaplığı)A large number of printed army manuals and military periodicals from that era (e.g., *Harp Mecmuası*)
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ARCHIVE OF THE MINISTRY OF NATIONAL DEFENSE (MSB)​

The archive has a rich content of documents and records pertaining to the Turkish Military History from 1864 to the present. Besides the historical documents category, it also has documents regarding the Staff, Recruiting, Health, Law, Accounts of Money and Assets.
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In the archives, you must search for Ministry of War materials under the Ottoman collection designation HR.NZAT. (Harbiye Nezareti) or under the collection of the Sultan's military office. The documents are written in Ottoman Turkish (using the Arabic script), so knowledge of the language or of paleography is required to read them.

This serves as inspiration: when materials from the countries of origin are unavailable, look for them in the recipient country...
 
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