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Unknown 76.2 headstamp

Luuk9319

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Who can identify the headstamps on this cartridge? Dimensions are 76.2x385R so probably the m1902 divisional gun.
 

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At 9 o'clock it looks like a weird Rheinmetall factory monogram. Other stamps like the "B" can also be found on other russian 76,2 mm cases.

I wonder if the 901 is for 1901 which would be very early for the obr. 1902 field gun.
 
Hi Luuk9319

The Model 1902 gun was preceded by the Model 1900 gun (3-inch Rapid-fire field gun, Model 1900)

3-дм. скорострельная полевая пушка обр.1900 года. ​

) ; both used the same cartridge case—namely, the 76.2x385R.

Note the wording in the gun's designation: "field," not "divisional." Since it was introduced with that specific designation, the matter seems clear to me, and I won't be speculating any further on it. :)

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Interestingly, you won't find an actual manual for the Model 1900 gun anywhere on the internet—excluding minor excerpts in manuals published by civilian firms with GAU approval. There is simply no purely military manual or set of firing tables available in a downloadable format...
Akon
 
It looks as if that Rheinmetall look-alike logo is in a square-like figure. Possibly not a Rheinmetall logo. It also made me think about the Serbian 75 mm M1907 mountain hun shell cases that also have a Rheinmetall look-alike logo, but are highly unlikely really Rheinmetall.
 
It looks as if that Rheinmetall look-alike logo is in a square-like figure. Possibly not a Rheinmetall logo. It also made me think about the Serbian 75 mm M1907 mountain hun shell cases that also have a Rheinmetall look-alike logo, but are highly unlikely really Rheinmetall.
There are a lot of questions regarding the state's production capacities: what did Serbia actually possess in 1907? Manufacturing artillery shell casings requires specific machinery and tooling, as well as the necessary skills... We also have to consider where Serbia sourced the semi-finished materials for the casings—again, a specific alloy... So, until that supply chain was established, I assume it was a matter of imports—and then we’d have to discuss the source... Who established the shell-manufacturing facility in Serbia, and when? I don't know that off the top of my head... A machine shop for bullet bodies is one thing, but this is another highly specialized type of arms production facility.
Akon
 
... I’m toying with the idea that it’s a graphic symbol—one that isn’t immediately obvious—belonging to the company Keller, Karlsruhe (if you join the two Ks together in a specific way, a graphic symbol emerges)...
Akon
 
Wouldn't German stamps be a bit neater? They are always organized, even the export ones.
Yes, that’s right—in open-style lettering, they always look "neat," but that’s precisely the problem here: this logo isn't an open-style wordmark, nor is it a famous logo like Krupp, Škoda,Bofors etc. or anything of that sort; for reasons unknown to me, it is an obscure logo.
Akon
 
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