Unknown 9 cm shell.

[super7]

Got this 9 cm shell from a friend. Heavy lump of steel. No charge.

Measurements 90 x 255 mm. Only marking present is at the bottom: 34.

Any ideas of its origin?

Regards, Jan

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[Chris 42 RQ]

Possibly American

The driving band grooves and the case crimp groove would suggest it is American in origen.
Sadly I know very little about the American ammo so cannot go any further.
Nice item !

 

[super7]

Thanks Chris. Yes, I'm also very pleased with it. Perhaps someone else on the forum recognizes the shell and is able to identify it.

Regards, Jan

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[super7]

Anybody else knows what this is?

Regards, Jan

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[HAZORD]

It appears to be a U.S. M77 SHOT AP-T projectile. Yours is missing the screw-in tracer. Used in the 90mm gun dating back to late WWII. Yours would have been used primarily in the tank gun, but could have been fired by the antiaircraft gun in a direct fire mode.

 

[super7]

Thanks John, I think you have cracked it. Many thanks for both the info and the drawings.

Regards, Jan

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[HAZORD]

Jan,

I spent a lot of time on a tank range where these projos were fired over the years. That shape is programmed into my head, easy to recognize. I believe there is at least one other thead her on BOCN, maybe 2 where members have shown phiotos of their fired projos. It would be a thread that I responded to.

John

 

[Ruurd]

Ap-t m77

Yes, I also think it is a AP-T M77 from the USA.
Here is another drawing,

 

[super7]

Thanks guys. Any idea what the color should be?

Regards, Jan

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[Gspragge]

Black with white markings

I put a page of American paint colours in the restoration section. Refer to that.

 

[HAZORD]

Jan

Proper coloring is a flat black projectile with white lettering. 1/2" high lettering, all capital letters.

If you are looking for the proper cartridge case, it would be an M-19 Brass or M-19B1 Steel case.

Just a final note, these early 90mm M-77 Projos are fairly hard to find here in the U.S. in unfired condition, so you have a good piece there.

 

[super7]

Thanks John. Although this shell is not my field of expertise I think I will keep it anyway as it was a gift of a friend. Nice to know it is a good collector's piece.

Regards, Jan

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