Unknown fuze container. Probably German, probably WW2

[Nudelmannrichter]

Hi folks, here an unusual Zuenderbuechse. I also posted this on a Facebook Group, but maybe here even more experts around...
The 2 L on the left is very common. The 2 L-verl. in the middle more rare but to find from time to time. It is said to be the container for 17(A) fuze but I am not 100% convinced. My question is if someone has info to the even more longer model on the right. The type is of course quite similar to the known bomb fuze containers but what might it be used for? Is it german WW2 or post-war? Is it german at all? My issue with this is the lack of the common markings like manufacturer, pattern number, bakelite type marking, year. There is just a P on the inner side of the lid. Any ideas or proven knowledge? It is said to come from old collection, what might be true, but this does not necessarily mean that it is contemporary WW2. Every serious info especially based on primary sources is welcome! Thanks!

 

[kz11gr]

Hi

A box for the fuze + ZUS 40 is possible ...

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[millsbomber]

SOME SEA MINE FUSES ARE LONGER THAN NORMAL BOMB FUSES

 

[kz11gr]

SOME SEA MINE FUSES ARE LONGER THAN NORMAL BOMB FUSES

Hi

This sort of box is used by the Luftwaffe bombs , but not sure for the Kriegsmarine Fuzes

 

[millsbomber]

Hi

This sort of box is used by the Luftwaffe bombs , but not sure for the Kriegsmarine Fuzes

sorry i mean Aircraft dropped sea mine fuses

 

[kz11gr]

sorry i mean Aircraft dropped sea mine fuses

the ww2 german Sea mine "Zünder" like the zus fuse used with the LM mine is short. This long container is for an other fuze , i think.

 

[Fusse2004]

I have been collecting bomb detonators and boxes for about 30 years. I have never seen this version before! What would the detonator have looked like? An LZZ 17 and a Zus.40 were never packaged together!

 

[kz11gr]

I have been collecting bomb detonators and boxes for about 30 years. I have never seen this version before! What would the detonator have looked like? An LZZ 17 and a Zus.40 were never packaged together!

Ok then, for what ? 55 A ?

 

[Fusse2004]

Unfortunately it won't fit! The cable for the contact head comes out of the side of the igniter! No space!

 

[millsbomber]

what's the length of this fuse.

https://www.bocn.co.uk/threads/elaz-17a-variant.76931/page-2#post-171655

 

[Alpini]

An other Idea, but not a serious one: Have you tried if a El.A.Z.17 (A/B) with it's base transport plug fit's into the 2L verl.? If not, does it fit into the unknown container?

The normal 2L containers only hold fuzes without the transport plugs. I guess these plugs were intended for fuzes which were packaged in wooden boxes without bakelite containers. But maybe they changed it some day for an expensive fuze like the El.A.Z.17 to place them into the Bakelite container with the base transport plug. I recently saw pictures of the short Z.17 Bm. found with the plugs originally installed.