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Unknown Rifle Grenade.....Iranian?
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Falcon
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Unfortunately I cannot positively identify this item, though this information may be useful.
According to the internet, the upside-down heart shaped symbol at the bottom left in the first photo is a Persian number five. This suggests Iranian origin as it is different to the Arabic number five.
Pakistani could also be possible as the same character for number 5 is apparently also used with written Urdu.
Here is the chart I used to identify these numbers. I do not have any knowledge of the languages themselves so cannot identify which of these it is.
According to the internet, the upside-down heart shaped symbol at the bottom left in the first photo is a Persian number five. This suggests Iranian origin as it is different to the Arabic number five.
Pakistani could also be possible as the same character for number 5 is apparently also used with written Urdu.
Here is the chart I used to identify these numbers. I do not have any knowledge of the languages themselves so cannot identify which of these it is.
Bruce,
Farm implements for harvesting a tank or two? Sorry I forgot to include a full length image in the original post.
I got some good responses from a post on one of the Facebook groups and am confident it is an Iranian piece. While there is some overlap in the Persian/Farsi and Urdu characters, most of the other indicators point toward Iran and not Pakistan or other ME country.
One poster suggested it was a copy of the German DM22 HEAT grenade and the DM28 practice version next to it seems to bear that out. Another identified it as a Swiss 70mm P-70-F rifle grenade. If so, I think it is still a copy of the earlier German DM22 design made on contract for Iran.
Another contributed a translation of the markings by an Iranian friend:
"Gun bomb
Anti battle Tank gun bomb
Model 1a22
Year is 65, I think it's Persian year which will be 1986"
So I'm confident it's Iranian and thanks again to all who contributed to the discussion.
Farm implements for harvesting a tank or two? Sorry I forgot to include a full length image in the original post.
I got some good responses from a post on one of the Facebook groups and am confident it is an Iranian piece. While there is some overlap in the Persian/Farsi and Urdu characters, most of the other indicators point toward Iran and not Pakistan or other ME country.
One poster suggested it was a copy of the German DM22 HEAT grenade and the DM28 practice version next to it seems to bear that out. Another identified it as a Swiss 70mm P-70-F rifle grenade. If so, I think it is still a copy of the earlier German DM22 design made on contract for Iran.
Another contributed a translation of the markings by an Iranian friend:
"Gun bomb
Anti battle Tank gun bomb
Model 1a22
Year is 65, I think it's Persian year which will be 1986"
So I'm confident it's Iranian and thanks again to all who contributed to the discussion.
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Francesco_Dif
Well-Known Member
It is Iranian 100% the traslation is: "Anti Tank gun bomb 100; 1965 (that corresponds to 1986) Model 1223"
In Iran, the Jalaali calendar is used. The Persian new year starts at either March 20th or 21st. So the year 1365 coud be either 1986 or 1987.
http://www.iranchamber.com/calendar/converter/iranian_calendar_converter.php
http://www.iranchamber.com/calendar/converter/iranian_calendar_converter.php
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