Vicker's 'S' Gun Rds.

[poltewerke]

Here are a few rounds for 'S' gun, but how many other loadings were made. l know of following prac ball; two marks in A.P; AP/HE/INC/T; exptl. S.V.A.P. Have noted an H.E. round - can anyone confirm or add to these, Ron

 

[SG500]

There's the littlejohn version.

Tony Williams has written a great article complete with photo of said round.

http://www.quarry.nildram.co.uk/sgun.htm

On the subject of S gun rounds, do you happen to know if they ever developed/experimented with a linked version? I've got some 2 pounder links that aren't the usual sort that came with an S gun round (I realise the service version didn't have links).

Very nice drill round too. Thanks for showing them.

Dave.

 

[poltewerke]

Vickers 'S' Gun ammn.

The 'little John's' nomenclature is S.V.A.P., have drawing of projectiles and copies of air trials etc. with this device. But thanks for your reply and l will drop you an Email in near future, Cheers mate, Regards, RonB.

 

[poltewerke]

Vic. 'S' and 'SBH' gun ammn.

Hi, am in error previous should be A.P.S.V., Yes exptl. links for 'S' gun and exptl. links for R.R. 'BH' gun Mk.4 were tried. MAP put forward this idear of feed in 1941. The RR. links were designed by a Mr.E. Ball l believe, something about using curtain tape as pockets for the ammn.The end result was using the standard metal link. Cheers, Ron.

 

[SG500]

Thanks Ron, have you any photos of the links in the trials paperwork you have?
It would be nice to verify the ones I have if possible.
Dave.

 

[Brennan]

Great pictures. I've been trying to find photos/diagrams/figures for 'S' gun H.E. for years with no luck.

I know there is a 40 mm 'S' gun H.E. round called "Mk.III T"

 

[Brennan]

On the subject of S gun rounds, do you happen to know if they ever developed/experimented with a linked version? I've got some 2 pounder links that aren't the usual sort that came with an S gun round (I realise the service version didn't have links).

The Beaufighter's experimental 'S' gun mount was fed by disintegrating link belts.

http://members.shaw.ca/letts/link.jpg

 

[poltewerke]

Gun 'S' - 40mm.

Great stuff Brennen, now can you locate blurb on HE projectile - this would be ideal, Regards, Ron.

 

[poltewerke]

Dave, is your round in metal link or in fabric continuios belt, better still can you send an image of your link. You made no mention of the VA 1939 rd. among photos posted yesterday - its one of my goodies!!! Regards, Ron.

 

[Brennan]

 

[poltewerke]

S gun - ammn.

That will do fine - bloody good, many thanks, Ron.

 

[SG500]

The Beaufighter's experimental 'S' gun mount was fed by disintegrating link belts.

http://members.shaw.ca/letts/link.jpg

WOW THAT'S ABSOLUTELY FANTASTIC, YOU'VE JUST MADE MY DAY, THANK YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
I've been looking for some sort of verification that the links I have are indeed expt S gun and your photo plus the round have confirmed that. Thank you so much, I'm well happy now!!
Dave.

 

[Bockscar]

2 pounder headstamps

I have scanned my three - 2 pounder case headstamp's for your perusal...Can I assume that one is an "S" gun case and the other two are standard naval "Pom-Poms? Thanks in advance.

 

[SG500]

Mmmmm not sure on that, I've seen a lot of s gun rounds and only the drill ones seem to say they are s gun. Both the rounds I have are crimped in and clearly say 40mm. Sorry can't help more on this.
Dave.

 

[SG500]

Dave, is your round in metal link or in fabric continuios belt, better still can you send an image of your link. You made no mention of the VA 1939 rd. among photos posted yesterday - its one of my goodies!!! Regards, Ron.

Sorry Ron I missed this part of the thread.
Very nice 1939 round.
I've attached quite a few photos of the links I have, just to complicate things there are 2 types, they are slightly different in the way they are made.
Dave.

 

[poltewerke]

Dave, thats fantastic - will have to get back to you this weekend and will scan this 3.5lb round, l should say drawing. lf nobody can put a positive l.D. on it then its just another spanner in the works. Cheers, catch ya later, Ron.

 

[2pounder]

40mm case

I note the 40mm case and its primer do not have the WD broad arrow (crowsfoot engineering co.) could this be for export? but why with this date goodness knows. 2pr

 

[Chris 42 RQ]

Sorry Ron I missed this part of the thread.
Very nice 1939 round.
I've attached quite a few photos of the links I have, just to complicate things there are 2 types, they are slightly different in the way they are made.
Dave.

Dave the reason for the different type of links is most likely that two or three companies were approached and asked to make links-they would have been given drawings that were to be used as a "rough guide" and if a company could come up with a short cut or material saving design this was encouraged-different links=different manufacturers but the links perform exactly the same function !

You do like those "Rocking Horse poo items" don't you !
Thanks for showing them to us.
Very nice items everybody and it is nice to see them all safely in peoples collections.

 

[SG500]

Dave the reason for the different type of links is most likely that two or three companies were approached and asked to make links-they would have been given drawings that were to be used as a "rough guide" and if a company could come up with a short cut or material saving design this was encouraged-different links=different manufacturers but the links perform exactly the same function !

You do like those "Rocking Horse poo items" don't you !
Thanks for showing them to us.
Very nice items everybody and it is nice to see them all safely in peoples collections.

Good thinking Chris and thanks, yes that makes sense. As for rare links, they just happened to be on the round when I got it...........the trouble is now far from being bits of bent metal that I want to take off cases without scratching them, I'm now getting more interested in them......the wants list is getting longer. Anyone got a spare "P" gun link out there??
Dave.

 

[Burney Davis]

more S gun rounds

Coming late into this thread but hopefully of interest.


Pic 1 - a proj marked 40mm SAP CLASS SBH and dated 1944 LUVAX
Pic 2 - the base in close up
Pic 3 - another of the same design but with an adaptor in it
Pic 4 - an s gun case
My question is who was LUVAX - the manufacturer?
What base fuze was used? Does any one have pictures?

BD