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So far about 2,200.00 Miguel. I did an earlier post looking for an ID. Damnedest thing I ever saw. It has 2 fuzes. I am trying to figure out on the side view, is that grenade that short and pudgy or is the picture compressed? With 27 bids on it somebody sees something in it. I have never seen the likes of that one.......Dano
 
Miguel, What is your opinion on the grenade? What comes to mind when you look at it? Just curious as I am stumped big time....Best......Dano
 
I bet that thing is worth, like, a million dollars, like,totally.....

And my paycheck this week was only $8.52
 
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Looks Schenkelish? Why the 2 pulls and fuzes? maybe if it does not go off with the first, they will throw it back and you can try again? Or it is ambidextrous, one fuze for the right handed and another for the lefties?
 
On further thought???, I wonder if it is a safety grenade. You have to pull both rings simultaneously before you throw. And we thoughtt the swivel part of the original Mk 1 was a good idea? or maybe you pulled the rings in order--what was it, right one first or the other? Would certainly double the chance of it going off.
 
You should see prototypes of experimental croatian made bouncing mines made in 1995 in Shipyard in the city of Split,in part of the shipyard which has been producing diesel engines for ships before war....two hand grenades combined in one body,three different kind of fuses-one at the bottom,one in the middle and one at the upper part of it,and there is no way that it could function because there was no connection between those three fuzes...I laughed as never before when I saw that....the best in all that story is the fact that that was made at the end of war and that the chief constructor was mechanic who was constructing diesel engines for ships:tongue:!

I have in my collection one of those prototypes,and I know that it could never function but it has historical value as it is one of few prototypes of experimental ordnance.And I also have all original drawings and technical drawing of that experimental mines made in "Brodograđevna industrija Split" or shortly called Split's shipyard.
 
Grenademan2005 said:
You have to post pics of all this, Man, it is very interesting.
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Who,me?
No problem,I 'll be back at my home in one month so I will put detail pics,I have three of them in my collection but there were 6 different prototypes of croatian experimental bouncing mines made in Shipyard in Split.The chief constructor thought that croatian ministry of defense will accept his inventions and finance mass production,but the war ended,so he never finished construction...just three od those six models could function..other three were idiotic effort of one mechanic and two other his colleagues to make highly effective bouncing mine:tinysmile_twink_t2:.At the end it became just highly complicated in construction.There were just two or three prototypes of that mines.
But Grenademan,you agree that no matter how idiotic and nonsensical in construction those mines were,that they have historic and collectors value?
 
For sure they have historical value, I dont know about collectors value because they are not German WWII, you know, but that they are interesting for us as a collectors of ordnance is totally sure.
 
Give it a smooth body and a little altering of the fuze using a larger detonator instead of two caps to ensure detonation of the filler, it kinda reminds me of the T13 Beano. The body is kinda like the Shinkle, but the pull pins/rings really look like the Beano's. Another thing to note, the plug at the bottom appears to be treaded. Don't know if this is for a display stand or for a rod for rifle grenade adaptation. Just my 2 cents worth. Bruce.
 
bacarnal said:
Give it a smooth body and a little altering of the fuze using a larger detonator instead of two caps to ensure detonation of the filler, it kinda reminds me of the T13 Beano. The body is kinda like the Shinkle, but the pull pins/rings really look like the Beano's. Another thing to note, the plug at the bottom appears to be treaded. Don't know if this is for a display stand or for a rod for rifle grenade adaptation. Just my 2 cents worth. Bruce.
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Yeah, for this I say on post #5 I think it is an US proto. Totally agree with you Bruce.
 
bacarnal said:
Give it a smooth body and a little altering of the fuze using a larger detonator instead of two caps to ensure detonation of the filler, it kinda reminds me of the T13 Beano. The body is kinda like the Shinkle, but the pull pins/rings really look like the Beano's. Another thing to note, the plug at the bottom appears to be treaded. Don't know if this is for a display stand or for a rod for rifle grenade adaptation. Just my 2 cents worth. Bruce.
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Bruce, I saw these threads in the small hole on bottom plug also, I did not know if was just the picture, but if you see them also, then most probably a threaded hole. I was thinking the same thing, maybe for display stand, or like you said for rifle grenade adapter.

I know one of the bidders on this grenade, and he does not even know what it is! He just likes it. :tinysmile_cry_t2:
 
I don't think those pull rings are from this originally. I think it is one ring with two pins connected. I think I have seen something very similar to this in the Aberdeen Museum. I will have to look though my disks and see what I can find.

Joe
 
Grenademan2005 said:
For sure they have historical value, I dont know about collectors value because they are not German WWII, you know, but that they are interesting for us as a collectors of ordnance is totally sure.
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I don't care about their collectors value,because I am not dealer,I am just enthustiastic collector and I don't even think about selling them.I have many inert ordnance from countries of former Yugoslavia in my collection but those three croatian experimental bouncing mines are my favorite part of collection because they are so rare..just two or three prototypes of each type of them was made:wink: Soon I'll put photos here but protected with watermark of my nickname.
 
Don't fret goran croatia, There is so much more to collect than WWII and rare prototypes certainly have their place. Look at the grenade that started this thread, probably a prototype, probably not WWII and the bid is a mere 2,200.00......Dano
 
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